HAIR ALGAE

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It is simply that you don't understand what I'm trying to say. Thats all. Concentrate hard. You can do it.
 
no you FOOL, do you. I have been saying ALL aquariums go through processes that arent safe for fish. The only thing I am saying is that hair algae isnt bad, and all aquariums go through the process of accumulating nitrates. if you actually have a fish only monster tank with less than 15ppm of nitrate then you must do tons of water changes and run tons of carbon and barely ever feed your fish. nitrates happen. PERIOD. water changes are the means of removal. ALL tanks have the capability to grow hair algae, and at the same time as soon as you have it started and growing it acts like a filter in itself. helps to rid the aquarium of your so called dangerous elements. How dangerous are nitrates man. can you tell me that. what makes algae grow can you tell me that. and what are the water parameters in your tank. im sure you could grow some hair algae in your tank, and never once put your fish in any more dangerous a situation than what you have them in at the moment. im sorry for sounding rude man. we are all mkf's and i dont want to argue. even though i like arguing, this arguement is getting old. I will say this lets call a truce. YOU are right that the nitrogen cycle can be dangerous to fish. I am right in saying hair algae isnt harmful and the process of growing it can benefit your fish. and besides, WHAT is really dangerous to the fish is neglect on our part. as long as we act responsibly our fish should be able to thrive in our systems. mfk for life. peace out daddyo
 
CentralMayhem said:
no you FOOL, do you. I have been saying ALL aquariums go through processes that arent safe for fish. The only thing I am saying is that hair algae isnt bad, and all aquariums go through the process of accumulating nitrates. if you actually have a fish only monster tank with less than 15ppm of nitrate then you must do tons of water changes and run tons of carbon and barely ever feed your fish. nitrates happen. PERIOD. water changes are the means of removal. ALL tanks have the capability to grow hair algae, and at the same time as soon as you have it started and growing it acts like a filter in itself. helps to rid the aquarium of your so called dangerous elements. How dangerous are nitrates man. can you tell me that. what makes algae grow can you tell me that. and what are the water parameters in your tank. im sure you could grow some hair algae in your tank, and never once put your fish in any more dangerous a situation than what you have them in at the moment. im sorry for sounding rude man. we are all mkf's and i dont want to argue. even though i like arguing, this arguement is getting old. I will say this lets call a truce. YOU are right that the nitrogen cycle can be dangerous to fish. I am right in saying hair algae isnt harmful and the process of growing it can benefit your fish. and besides, WHAT is really dangerous to the fish is neglect on our part. as long as we act responsibly our fish should be able to thrive in our systems. mfk for life. peace out daddyo
Your so close to understanding. Hopefully you will actually have an original thought rather than reheating what you already said. You just want to win the debate even if you don't totally understand the facts. It's ok, common newbie problem. (New to the hobby.) Thought you weren't going to respond anymore.
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ok man thats it. why dont you just type what you mean instead of letting it be up to me to GUESS. explain your reasoning to me and then maybe we will have another debate. NEWBIE!!!!! hahaha i have been in the tropical/native fish hobby for many many years. let me see 19 yrs. NEWBIE problem hahahahahahahahaha. you are lame man. i tried. but you are just too lame. you are like one of the kids in the school yard in elementary school who says that something is right cause his dad told it to him. you have NO legit info at all that you have posted for me to read, besides one account from pet smart that is about CONTROL of it in a reef tank. youre the kid who says " all that matters is I know, I dont have to explain myself to you" hahaha. just drop a bomb on me if im that stupid. unleash all your info and prove to me what you are TRYING to say. The only thing I heard from you is that the process of getting hair algae is dangerous. guess the cold war is over. i tried to call a truce and you came with your snide ass remarks. but what else should i have expected from a NEWBIE!!!!!! hahahahahahah
 
CentralMayhem said:
ok man thats it. why dont you just type what you mean instead of letting it be up to me to GUESS. explain your reasoning to me and then maybe we will have another debate. NEWBIE!!!!! hahaha i have been in the tropical/native fish hobby for many many years. let me see 19 yrs. NEWBIE problem hahahahahahahahaha. you are lame man. i tried. but you are just too lame. you are like one of the kids in the school yard in elementary school who says that something is right cause his dad told it to him. you have NO legit info at all that you have posted for me to read, besides one account from pet smart that is about CONTROL of it in a reef tank. youre the kid who says " all that matters is I know, I dont have to explain myself to you" hahaha. just drop a bomb on me if im that stupid. unleash all your info and prove to me what you are TRYING to say. The only thing I heard from you is that the process of getting hair algae is dangerous. guess the cold war is over. i tried to call a truce and you came with your snide ass remarks. but what else should i have expected from a NEWBIE!!!!!! hahahahahahah
What ever gets you thru the night. Believe what you want. :newbie:
 
still no info to back up your claims huh daddyo. oh well man. i thought you had it in you. guess not. but as of NOW i quit this discussion, and should anyone else have a hair algae question, i will tell them to consult with you, as you are the authority on the stuff. since i know nothing of aquariums or the processes they go through, i will forever keep my mouth shut when asked such questions. and by the way. since we started this debate, i have been thinking. i dont think i want my fish in a dangerous environment. so............daddyo.......how do i get rid of the stuff and keep it from coming back. why did i get it in the first place, and what can i do to prevent it in the future. any advice would be greatly appreciated.
 
CentralMayhem said:
still no info to back up your claims huh daddyo. oh well man. i thought you had it in you. guess not. but as of NOW i quit this discussion, and should anyone else have a hair algae question, i will tell them to consult with you, as you are the authority on the stuff. since i know nothing of aquariums or the processes they go through, i will forever keep my mouth shut when asked such questions. and by the way. since we started this debate, i have been thinking. i dont think i want my fish in a dangerous environment. so............daddyo.......how do i get rid of the stuff and keep it from coming back. why did i get it in the first place, and what can i do to prevent it in the future. any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Otto cats, black outs, APC has some great pieces on Flourish Exell and it's ability to kill it. A fert called tropical master grow I've found seems to kill it. Twirl it into a toothbrush to remove it. I have a siphon I rigged to hook up to a scrub brush so when I scrub algae away, it gets immediately removed. Cutting back on unnecessary organic material with at least a weekly water change(or as needed) until the problem is removed. Add some nutrient absorbing fast growing plants such as Wisteria, duckweed, hornwort, fairy moss, water sprite,Hygrophila, Bacopa mint ( has a few of the same ingredients found in Melafix) and a carnivorous aquatic plant, Utricularia macrorhiza (Bladderwort) is amazing at destroying algae, more specifically the food they use. This plant is amazing being that it actually traps micro organisms as a food source. You can also soak rocks and such in peroxide and do a diluted dip for aquatic plants. The hair algae if not scrubbed off after the dip and placed into the tank will turn pink when it is dead.

Further more I only said that the process of getting hair algae isn't safe or better yet optimum. You can make it safe/ improve the water conditions and still have hair algae. It's hard to kill. I already explained how you get it. Feel free to ask for any more info.

The dip with plants has to be exact in amount and soaking time or it will kill the plants. If you need details on the process let me know.
 
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