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jason longboard;1399718; said:
Not one bit-
Got about 1000 rounds through it-Not a problem one------
I'm one of the fools that swear by Glocks n e how....
But it's a big gun and with carrying the full 15 rounds of 40 cal-Quite heavy also-Not a good one for personal carry-
Now the 30 on the other hand---Very nice personal carry....
My 22 isn't stock-I have had alot of work done to it....
im not a huge Beretta fan, but they make 9mm and 40cal.
I use the model 96 9mm (92 is .40 same gun) at work, iv seen these things abused, fired dirty, not maintained and generally mis cared for. and no problems with the weapon itself. Only have problems with users not liking the gun because of its features. here is alot of the normal complaints-
"this things is innacurate" THIS IS VERY FALSE the shooters dont understand that it has a heavy triger pull which if not used correctly causes a miss. I would say the accuracy is about "average" for a full size auto loader.
"its too heavy" QUIT BEING A FA@!! but really its not a lite gun, its made of steel, not plastics or composites. but it is sturdy.
"i dont like the stupid safety thing" it has an ambedextrious safety lever which also serves as a figing pin block. the safety features work great (assuming you want external safetys') it also has a loaded chamber detector that works (but you still better off checking manually if you aint sertain to be 100%) and a half cock notch.
"i dont like the sights" well the sights are very basic...
"i hate this stupid gun it sucks, 9mm's suck" this is an opinion usually stated by shooters that have no real experiense and dont own firearms personally.
"id rather have a glock" another statement by shooters that know nothing. glock is just a very very verrrrrry popular name for some reason that i dont understand.
Basically, the beretta 92/96 is a solid heavy full size auto loader that is ok on accuracy, very reliable, easy to disassemble, all parts are midish quality steel, has good safety features (besides your finger), heavy triger pull, external hammer double or single action, standard open sights.
I miss anything?
I am open to arguments, and only want to argue to explain why you dont like it if thats the case.
if you get one for around 400-500 used its a good deal.... new 600+ $
I use the model 96 9mm (92 is .40 same gun) at work, iv seen these things abused, fired dirty, not maintained and generally mis cared for. and no problems with the weapon itself. Only have problems with users not liking the gun because of its features. here is alot of the normal complaints-
"this things is innacurate" THIS IS VERY FALSE the shooters dont understand that it has a heavy triger pull which if not used correctly causes a miss. I would say the accuracy is about "average" for a full size auto loader.
"its too heavy" QUIT BEING A FA@!! but really its not a lite gun, its made of steel, not plastics or composites. but it is sturdy.
"i dont like the stupid safety thing" it has an ambedextrious safety lever which also serves as a figing pin block. the safety features work great (assuming you want external safetys') it also has a loaded chamber detector that works (but you still better off checking manually if you aint sertain to be 100%) and a half cock notch.
"i dont like the sights" well the sights are very basic...
"i hate this stupid gun it sucks, 9mm's suck" this is an opinion usually stated by shooters that have no real experiense and dont own firearms personally.
"id rather have a glock" another statement by shooters that know nothing. glock is just a very very verrrrrry popular name for some reason that i dont understand.
Basically, the beretta 92/96 is a solid heavy full size auto loader that is ok on accuracy, very reliable, easy to disassemble, all parts are midish quality steel, has good safety features (besides your finger), heavy triger pull, external hammer double or single action, standard open sights.
I miss anything?
I am open to arguments, and only want to argue to explain why you dont like it if thats the case.
if you get one for around 400-500 used its a good deal.... new 600+ $
I agree with most of the above regarding the Beretta. I got my dad a 92 and he likes it just fine. What I usually tell people about the Beretta 92 when they ask my 2 cents is that its a good range pistol if you know how to shoot. I dont favor it as a combat pistol because it has that big opening on the slide that dirt just loves to find. I cleaned my M9 incessantly in Iraq because of this. Id like a combat pistol to be able to face a little more neglect - just in case. Better options? I dont know, its the only pistol Ive ever taken to combat so I dont have anything else to compare it to under the circumstances.
As far as all of the magnum heads that start hollering about how wimpy the 9mm round is or that it wont stop people? I dropped a couple Iraqis with single 9mm hits and they went down hard. Im not saying I only fired one round at them LOL. Goes for the 5.56mm round too. Seen single round center mass kills there too.
Find a decent pistol that you are comfortable shooting, practice shooting it and youll be fine. I encourage you to buy American though!
As far as all of the magnum heads that start hollering about how wimpy the 9mm round is or that it wont stop people? I dropped a couple Iraqis with single 9mm hits and they went down hard. Im not saying I only fired one round at them LOL. Goes for the 5.56mm round too. Seen single round center mass kills there too.
Find a decent pistol that you are comfortable shooting, practice shooting it and youll be fine. I encourage you to buy American though!
USA USA USA USA
love my para-ord p14-45cal -14rds of 45cal !!! i think their american ?
little pricy thou, got it used and its kinda beat up but only cosmetic, this thing shoots true and will survive armegeddon along with the roaches and the twinkies.
love my para-ord p14-45cal -14rds of 45cal !!! i think their american ?
little pricy thou, got it used and its kinda beat up but only cosmetic, this thing shoots true and will survive armegeddon along with the roaches and the twinkies.
The para ord is a awesome 1911 style .45. I have the p10 compact model.
As far as best gun for around $500? New ? I'd have to go with a springfield Xd.
It's also looks and feels much like a glock and in my personal opinion shoots better out of the box.
As for reliability 1000 rounds isint a good test size for long term durability. 10,000 round or more is normal. I've got a FN herstal FiveSeven thats rated for 25,000 round minimum service life.
As far as best gun for around $500? New ? I'd have to go with a springfield Xd.
It's also looks and feels much like a glock and in my personal opinion shoots better out of the box.
As for reliability 1000 rounds isint a good test size for long term durability. 10,000 round or more is normal. I've got a FN herstal FiveSeven thats rated for 25,000 round minimum service life.
Liam;1398474; said:
Umm...no, the bullet would just fall out of the casing.
Its not the "explosion" that causes the bullet speed up rather it is the gases created by the explosion. The gases have only one way to escape from the casing and out the chamber and that is by pushing the bullet out the barrel.
Back to the OP, really look into the XD series. Great pistols for a good price!
the xd is the springfeild?Is that the one that looks just like the glock?If so,i held one today at the shop.It was a 40 cal and i was comparing it to the glock 22 40 cal.The glock grip felt a bit better to me but the springfeild has the safety on the back that could be good and bad.
