I added some oak leaves to the tank today just to see if anything happens. I will try some peas for the heck of it but don't expect it to help. I also would like to point out I have starved this fish more than a week a couple of times and it doesn't help at all. I really am not an over feeder I only feed my fish 5 times a week (sometimes less.) I can tell by looking at their bellies and reactions if they really need to eat. Im going to check out those links rd thanks everybody for advice and input I am willing to try anything once starting with the more natural methods. Im not a big fan of pharmaceuticals.