Help! 5" Motoro Stingray upside down! Iradic behavior!! Help!

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Hi All, the fact that you did a water change may have caused this. Obviously you checked the obvious nitrates etc however if the waters direct from the tap do you know if your local water authority uses Chloriamine or any antibacterial additive? They'll always test for human consumption but that doesnt mean its safe to live in for rays (the biology is quite different).
Oh and someone said something about swim bladder im fairly certain that rays dont have one.
Hope the rays OK but i would ring up your water company and check their addatives
 
did you put aquarium salt after water change? or how long is your carbon?
I don't think is parasite and probably the water quality
 
water is from an R.O. unit and I treat it with prime and add novaqua. no carbon, 3 sponge filters and wet/dry with bio and mech media. she made it through the night. I treated with prazipro just in case of flukes or parasites. will keep you updated
 
i had the same problem with a datnoid, when doing water changes try to fill your tank away from your fish some times the current of new water can basically shock them all you can do is let them fight it out if they breathing really hard probably wont make it just watch it slow down unfortunately...!
 
2 of my ray's died the exact same way

i dont think they were eating properly, but then again they were fairly new.

its hard to tell when ray's are eating espically when you have other fish in the tank

its was very tragic and sad when they passed away.
 
knobhill;4458099; said:
water is from an R.O. unit and I treat it with prime and add novaqua. no carbon...
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Isn't RO water a low pH? Too much will crash the pH levels. I recommend just using tap water + Prime. No need to add Novaqua too. Good luck. Whenever I hear of a ray being upside down, it normally means death curl will soon follow.
 
i have seen a ray do this before. IMO this is another case of ammonia.

The ray i saw doing this was a friends of mine, and there was old food stuck in the inlet of one if his filters, and lots of it. Caused an ammonia spike.

His ray was banging around and kept flipping over. It died, before he found out the problem. GL
 
Cajun;4458183; said:
Isn't RO water a low pH? Too much will crash the pH levels. I recommend just using tap water + Prime. No need to add Novaqua too. Good luck. Whenever I hear of a ray being upside down, it normally means death curl will soon follow.
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Pure RO is neutral pH but with zero buffering capacity - the pH of pure RO will very likely fall through the floor almost immediately. Probably also makes osmoregulation more difficult but I'm not a biologist so this is just a guess.

I'd start replacing the tank's water with regular tap water stat, maybe 10% at a time initially. Why are you using RO?
 
Hi Folks, this is Mrs. Knobhill....So far..the little girl is doing okay. Im praying that we just had a scare. I turned her right side up last night, after she was laying like that for 10 minutes or so, struggling to flip herself back over. I think if she wouldve stayed that way, she wouldve died from stress....but thankfully from that point on...she seemed to improve through the night. I am monitoring closely, but am trying to stay away from the tank, as to eliminate any undo stress on her. Seems everytime I come around, she wants to swim again. So far, I dont see any death curl happening (ThankGod!), but she's still strangely a bit more active than usual, so we'll see. ;-/ I will leave her undisturbed throughout the day, and limit feeding for the next few days, as the water is treated and want to limit water changes until she's stronger.

I will keep you posted & thankyou for ANY & all your help & suggestions.... I've been soo worried.

Sincerely,

Mrs. Knobhill
 
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