help have already had two fish die today...

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o ya and i added another small filter to the tank as well just to keep it more clean and get the water circulating through better.
 
um my stock for this 150 is(correction was... 12 inche golden clown knife, 12 inch red tail catfish 2x 12 inch mono ocell hybrid peacock bass, 2x 10 inch gars, and a red bay snook with 175 gallons of filtration. i know its alot and i dont feel like getting yelled at i was just about to upgrade to a 300 gallon plus before my fish started dying.
 
.... i dont mean to be offensive but you have 6 foot long fish in a 150 (plus one more size unknown)...... this is the reason your fish are dying... You only have a 1 full turnover rate on your filter per hour.... what are you using for filtration..? you just set yourself up for a massive death like this... your nitrates must be off the chart
 
.... i dont mean to be offensive but you have 6 foot long fish in a 150 (plus one more size unknown)...... this is the reason your fish are dying... You only have a 1 full turnover rate on your filter per hour.... what are you using for filtration..? you just set yourself up for a massive death like this... your nitrates must be off the chart

X2 you get what you deserve you even state that you know your way over stocked and way under filtration needs.


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ok what do you want me to do i had these fish in there for the time being and was planning to get a new tank soon i cant buy a 300 gallon tank out of the blue i already have 5 tanks in my house and my family was complaining about the 150 taking up room i cant even imagine a 300 gallon! plus the cheapest 300 gallon tank i saw on craigslist was 1,200 dollars! which will take some time to save up for i realized that the tank was overstocked and was planning to do something about it in the next couple days wether it be get rid of them or get a bigger tank but then they got sick, also when i said i added another small filter it was not because i didnt have enough filtration to begin with, it was simply because i am trying to make these fish that are left make a full recovery so i thought extra filtration cant hurt.
 
Your under filtered because your tank is 150 gallons with 6ft worth of fish with only 1 turn over per hour.

Sell your fish.


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i will sell everything except for my one 11 inch pbass i think if he was in there by himself he will be fine plus i have had him for over a year now so i dont really want to let him go
 
selling all the fish and keeping one is a good idea. If you cant provide a suitable tank for the fish when they get larger they dont get them or sell them.
 
ok what do you want me to do i had these fish in there for the time being and was planning to get a new tank soon i cant buy a 300 gallon tank out of the blue i already have 5 tanks in my house and my family was complaining about the 150 taking up room i cant even imagine a 300 gallon! plus the cheapest 300 gallon tank i saw on craigslist was 1,200 dollars! which will take some time to save up for i realized that the tank was overstocked and was planning to do something about it in the next couple days wether it be get rid of them or get a bigger tank but then they got sick, also when i said i added another small filter it was not because i didnt have enough filtration to begin with, it was simply because i am trying to make these fish that are left make a full recovery so i thought extra filtration cant hurt.

You're essentially stating yourself what went wrong. You have too many tanks, with too many fish, and not enough filtration, and you can't afford sufficient filtration. And you sound young, so my guess is you probably have stuff to do that impedes with proper maintenance, plus I'm guessing your family doesn't want to pay for water for you to do the water changes that would make it possible to keep your fish maintained at those stocking levels. At your stocking levels right NOW you would have needed much more filtration with a large amount of room for biomedia (enough for at least 4 times per hr turnover, and some powerheads/airation for more oxygen exchange would have been a good idea - at your turnover rate the bacteria weren't even getting enough water contact to efficiently nitrify), and you should have been doing at least 50% water changes per week since you had large growing fish that need to eat heavily, probably more if you overfeed like just about everyone. Long term as your fish grew you would have needed a pretty heavy water exchange system or be doing daily large water changes to keep up with bioload, and the RTC still would have physically outgrown your tank.

As a responsible person, the best idea would be to go with one big tank with proper stocking (fish that won't outgrow it - and a RTC isn't an option for any of your tanks in the forseeable future), or forgo larger fish and just get smaller fish that are adequate for your smaller setups.

I understand you want to keep huge fish in aquaria, but it takes a lot of room, time, and money to do so if you want to do it properly and keep them alive long term. I'd suggest if you want big fish, for now since you live at home, consider seeing if you'd be allowed to do a large outdoor pond with fish that will tolerate your climate. If you live in Orlando there are plenty of exotics that could do fine, including pbass which are already stocked in your lakes.

You also may want to know that the warmer you make your tank the less dissolved o2 it tends to hold, so with too little turnover you will essentially suffocate your fish until enough die that o2 levels are sufficient for your stocking level. As much oxygenation as possible is important the warmer your water, so think powerheads to break the surface, air diffusers, or anything that can add turnover and more water/air contact. You want to get as much oxygen saturation as possible, and warm water already has a lower saturation point than cold.
 
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