HELP HELP: Fish have Cloudy Eyes AND!!!

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Whoops, I did mean to write cloudy eyes in my first post. But you should really post up water parameters. And you said your fish were fixed, post up pics of them too
 
to me it looks like ick i bought some stuff called quick cure by a company called ap pro and it has worked wonders for me in the past only thing is you have to treat for like 10 days and it stains everything in the tank. killed the ick though
 
outlaw;1116627; said:
to me it looks like ick i bought some stuff called quick cure by a company called ap pro and it has worked wonders for me in the past only thing is you have to treat for like 10 days and it stains everything in the tank. killed the ick though

May I ask why you think that? Ich is tiny white salt granual sized spots in places or completely covering the fish.

This is ich:

http://cichlidresearch.com/gifs/disease/Astatheros_longimanus_with_ich_DSC_9878.jpg
 
definitely not ich. Just cloudy eyes.
 
i tested all my water again today and all the tests (nh3 nh4, no3, no2 ph and high range) are all at the normals. i looked in the directions as well and they fall all under the right norms. i did a 25% water change and im following the directions from mardel meds and treating it for 5 days. hoep all my fish pull through. i only put the sharks in my tank because i had to put them some were because the new home they were going to wasnt ready yet.
 
when the kit says your numbers are "normal," what does that mean? Different fish tolerate different water parameters. If there is any Ammonia or nitrite in your tank it's probably the root cause. What's the pH at? I bet you are going through a cycle after putting the new fish in. Maybe you zapped your filter beforehand... I don't know, but I'll put money on it being your water, and this is something all the meds in the world can't fix.
 
well what should i do? i have the meds in the tank now and for 3 more days. can i just keep doing water changes?
 
What are your parameters? I don't think anyone on here is comfortable giving advice without the numbers. Just saying they're ok doesn't tell me anything. If I get numbers (ore even a photo of the test vials) I can help you more.

When a tank full of fish is cycling, I'd recommend a 50% change and then add some beneficial bacteria from a "live" filter directly to the filter intake. Check H2O the next day, if still high, do a 30% change not touching the gravel. Repeat the next day if necessary. Don't feed the fish for a few days.

However, I don't know what is really wrong with you tank, so check your water and post the numbers before going any further.

You can stop the meds any time-what are they anyway?
 
If your numbers are 0 for ammonia, 0 for nitrite and with your bioload..40~60ppm of nitrate is within norms. What is your Ph? Is it below 6.5? If it is..its too acidic...although the "norm" is 7.0 Ph for neutral..aro's adapt to a little acidity...hence 6.5.
1) Also is the Ph constant or does it fluctuate a lot?
2) Have you recently cleaned your filter or turned of filtration for a period of time?
3) When was the last time you cleaned your filter pads/gravel?
4) What is you tank's temperature?
5) Are you using carbon for chemical filtration?
6) Do you do scheduled water changes and how much?

If already is fine, 0 ammonia, 0 nitrite, steady Ph you should be okay, except for all the medicines you dumped in. Cloudy eyes ususally clears up if the you add aquarium salt as per instructions on the box, crank the temperature up a notch or two. If its ich...you crank up the temp a little higher..ex: if you tank is constantly @ 80 F, crank the temp up to 83~86 F.

Lastly, if you have a properly set up tank that is fully cycled you don't need carbon in you filter on a constant basis. Only time charcoal should be used is when removing medicines. I'm sure most of the people here don't use any carbon to maintain a healthy and clean smelling tanks. Thing with carbon, if you don't change it depending on your bio load...over time it gets oversaturated and leaks back the impurities into you water. I can't remember where I've seen this article..but it describes how the effects are harmful to the fishes since the impurities leaking back are by products wheres the original "junk" is taken by the carbon and is converted.

Something about "adsorption"...can't really recall.

I don't know about your routine for water changes only you do. But with all the inhabitants you have, its a good idea to do a w/c at least once a week of about 30~50 percent, of course you might want to age the water properly and try to keep it within the same temp as the tank water. Remember in the warmer months the water tends to get really nastier...so a w/c twice a week is not uncommon. But that is all based on your room's ambient temperature..does it get warmer or is it always a constant temp in the room.

Anyhow...good luck on your tank/fishes.
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yeah, agreed. But even is his ph is low, he has south american fish. If anything, a pH of 6.5 would be ideal for his fish.
 
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