Help ID fenestratus

[BpSAx]

Hy
6 months ago i did an import Conkels the Don, and i bought Paratheraps fenestratus They came as blue/read head with 1.5".
In the two months they began this transformation
Out2011


Nov2011


And now with 6"


It´s a Paratheraps cf. fenestratus catemaco sp. ?

 

[jonclark96]

Looks like it to me. I had one that did the same thing.

 

[BpSAx]

so why Don Conkels puts the acronym cf. in identifying
The acronym cf, is to that species were are doubt in identification
If they are descendants of fenestratus, there should be no doubt in identifying

P.s
sory for my bad english

 

[Modest_Man]

He puts the cf. because the piebald fenestratus are found only in Lago Catemaco, so they could potentially be a separate species (though I personally don't think so).

At least you still got fenestratus, I got zonatus when I bought Conkel fenestratus.

 

[JacobWhitley]

first one looks like a Vieja regani

 

[BpSAx]

first one looks like a Vieja regani

They all fotos of the same fish

 

[BpSAx]

He puts the cf. because the piebald fenestratus are found only in Lago Catemaco, so they could potentially be a separate species (though I personally don't think so).

At least you still got fenestratus, I got zonatus when I bought Conkel fenestratus.

But that´s strange i have 4 and only one change. If conkels has doubt about the species what are the remainig 3 that have the normal coloration? If they are all of the same ofspring they should be all Paratheraps fenestratus. With now doubt in the species only in the variation (caremaco or read head)

 

[JacobWhitley]

oh my bad it is Paratheraps fenestratus

 

[Modest_Man]

But that´s strange i have 4 and only one change. If conkels has doubt about the species what are the remainig 3 that have the normal coloration? If they are all of the same ofspring they should be all Paratheraps fenestratus. With now doubt in the species only in the variation (caremaco or read head)

Not 100% of the Catemaco change. But only Lago Catemeco has fenestratus that CAN change. Does that make sense?

 

[BpSAx]

yes I know that not all change
I read this article that really helped http://www.cichlidae.com/article.php?id=23
My confusion now is with the cf. If Conkels identifies tem with cf. it´s because ha arent sure of the species. Ít´s hybrid?
Does anyone have experience with these species cf.?