Help Id my new piranha

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I hate to hear it man. They are stepping that aspect up some though
 
It has the rhoms body shape but mine dosent have the sparkals down by the bottom of the belly and down by the anal fin. the heads aro shaped and not round like the rbp. it looks alot like a gold dimond but dont get your hopes up im not really suer
 
Diamond is just a fairy name some seller made up to jack the price on rhoms with the glitter look to them. Any rhom can form the diamond flaking and can also lose the flaking. Diet, location etc make up these things but there is no such thing as a diamond rhom.. a rhom is a rhom is a rhom.. drop the names makes things easier. In the end they are all the same fish just different looking.

Same as the RBP and terntezi.. suppose to be the same fish just different looking. IDK how I feel about it though cause they seem to be different fish to me.. but science says they are the same fish from different local
 
Diamond is just a fairy name some seller made up to jack the price on rhoms with the glitter look to them. Any rhom can form the diamond flaking and can also lose the flaking. Diet, location etc make up these things but there is no such thing as a diamond rhom.. a rhom is a rhom is a rhom.. drop the names makes things easier. In the end they are all the same fish just different looking.

Same as the RBP and terntezi.. suppose to be the same fish just different looking. IDK how I feel about it though cause they seem to be different fish to me.. but science says they are the same fish from different local

I have to disagree some what.
There is a visual difference between a real diamond vs a non-diamond. Its in the gene, and its not something can be changed with diet and water. Would better diet and water condition make the diamond appearance more "pop"? Probably yes but it won't turn a non-diamond into a diamond.
All piranhas can have some hue on the scale under the right lighting and angle but that doesn't make them real diamond, if you have seen one in person you would notice the difference.


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I have to disagree some what.
There is a visual difference between a real diamond vs a non-diamond. Its in the gene, and its not something can be changed with diet and water. Would better diet and water condition make the diamond appearance more "pop"? Probably yes but it won't turn a non-diamond into a diamond.
All piranhas can have some hue on the scale under the right lighting and angle but that doesn't make them real diamond, if you have seen one in person you would notice the difference.


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JP,
You know me and you know I have one lol.. I have seen in person. Also I had one at 6" that was non diamond. Just peru.. wasn't big enough to be black yet. After a few months in my tank he developed what you guys call Diamond to him.. he didn't have this at all. How many times have we spoke with Frank on this and he has said time and time.. diamond is a name (I think it was G) that was just made up by a seller who jacked the price up on the rhom's he had with shiny flakes. According to frank the diamond look is a deformed set of scales.. that should not be shiny unless it's reflecting a light source. In the wild these fish lose their ability to hide as good because the shiny is always blowing their cover??? I looked and can not find nothing on diamond rhom on OPEFE or any other scientific piranha site. I looked back when I was wanting a rhom and trying to find a way to know the difference since places like AS will sell you a 3-4" rhom and call it a diamond and jack the price up on him.
 
JP,
You know me and you know I have one lol.. I have seen in person. Also I had one at 6" that was non diamond. Just peru.. wasn't big enough to be black yet. After a few months in my tank he developed what you guys call Diamond to him.. he didn't have this at all. How many times have we spoke with Frank on this and he has said time and time.. diamond is a name (I think it was G) that was just made up by a seller who jacked the price up on the rhom's he had with shiny flakes. According to frank the diamond look is a deformed set of scales.. that should not be shiny unless it's reflecting a light source. In the wild these fish lose their ability to hide as good because the shiny is always blowing their cover??? I looked and can not find nothing on diamond rhom on OPEFE or any other scientific piranha site. I looked back when I was wanting a rhom and trying to find a way to know the difference since places like AS will sell you a 3-4" rhom and call it a diamond and jack the price up on him.

You really can't know for sure if a rhom is a diamond or not until its at certain size, usually after 6in. Its a variant in the rhom complex, could be a genetic deform or mutation. Many time it creates a new specie if it has certain advantage and since we are getting diamond left and right I don't think the diamond effect is the weaker link on the gene, without more scientific evident your guess is as good as mine. Most of the common name in the hobby is a descriptive term, I agree that ppl shouldn't get too hang up on those names but rhoms do vary from location to location in terms of appearance. Anyway I don't even remember what the original topic was, and replying on my phone sucks. Lol

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HAHA I hear ya man! You know G made the name up of diamond rhom though.. it's not a scientific name but a pep name given to fish with flacky scales.. technically and rhom can be diamond. I do agree the location can change the fishes apperance.. Peru, Vinny, Xingu, Guyana rhom they are named for their location because of the slight difference in appearance. This is (according to science) due to the difference in diet, climate, and water. Very interesting stuff though for sure. I know I have spent so much time talking with Frank on this having him explain to me how they aren't different fish. He says all rhom no matter color or location is the same fish. They only look different due to location changes in their living. I do agree though the diamond effect is getting to be so popular but it cracks me up when the stores sell this 4" fish calling it a diamond rhom lol
 
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