Help ID these ATF I imported

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Me either...... I just buy them, raise them, and stare at them.

2 tanks sitting right next to each other one with a 12-13" Vatf and the other a 16" Tatf. Pretty easy to see a difference......
 
I can't identify these things worth squat, but as soon as I opened the thread I said tatf... probably cause of DB's threads.
 
I believe batf and fatf are slimmer and also have underbites. It's obviously not a Goliath, so it's out of tatf and vatf imo. Tatf remind me of smaller gatf as far as their head goes. I believe it's a tatf because of this. Let me take a look at the sticky lol

Edit: sticky says young vatf only have black at the tip of the adipose where as tatf have and all black to dark bluish adipose. Also vatf have 2 scales vs tatf who have 3-4. The fish in the picture looks to have more than 2 scales below its lateral line and it's more than just the tip on the adipose that is black.

Conclusion: tatf imo.
 
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definitely a tatf from what I can see and what everyone else has said. The head on them definitely look similar to my TATF and is definitely bigger than the other species. Great pick up, would like to see how they turn out once they've grown
 
Wow, thats acutally a pleasant surprise. Just as you guys described, there bad boys are really aggressive compared to the VATF I have in my main tank. They are also very voracious compared to the VATF, where they would actually take on goldfish 3/4th their size and eat it chunk by chunk. Thank you guys for the help. Ill be getting more soon and ill post more pictures.
 
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