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Mugsyc

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I think its a RTM but not sure? Or if thiers more then one type , i also would like to no if its a male or Female . And if anyone can give me some more info on it , i cant find much online. Thanks, oh its about 1- 2 Inches

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Yes, it is in fact a Parachromis motaguensis.
Looks to be a Male, but the picture is grainy so can’t be sure. But I guess male

What kind of information do you want?
They grow to around 12 inches or so.
Highly aggressive
Very beautiful and fun fish.
Not very community safe
Sometimes they do headstands
 
Yes, it is in fact a Parachromis motaguensis.
Looks to be a Male, but the picture is grainy so can’t be sure. But I guess male

What kind of information do you want?
They grow to around 12 inches or so.
Highly aggressive
Very beautiful and fun fish.
Not very community safe
Sometimes they do headstands
Yes, it is in fact a Parachromis motaguensis.
Looks to be a Male, but the picture is grainy so can’t be sure. But I guess male

What kind of information do you want?
They grow to around 12 inches or so.
Highly aggressive
Very beautiful and fun fish.
Not very community safe
Sometimes they do headstands

Just wanted to know if i can keep him with oscar, green terror, jd, flowerhorn all 1 inch bigger then him? All in 160 gallon
 
I also wanted to get a small dovii and try to breed them?
 
*facepalm*

Ok, there is all kinds of things here. I’m gonna go off the pretense that this is a serious question and not a troll.

1- how long do you plan on keeping all these fish in said 160 gallon tank.

2- what’s the size of said 160 gallon tank

3- what tank do you plan on putting said breeding pair of Dovii in or are you trying to breed said Dovii to above RTM.
 
Trying to keep them all in the same tank as long as i can if possible.
The 160 is acrylic ,im not sure on deminsions but more square ish.
I have another 150 tank thats glass long , hoping to have that one for breeding and yes to rtm if possible ?
And yes real question,
 
Okidokie, Well here is my honest answer.

You can in fact keep all those fish in that 160, eventually probably sooner then later the RTM will kill the Oscar and GT even at 3 or 4 inches an RTM will be more aggressive then a 5 inch Oscar or a 5 inch green terror. My personal experience has led me to believe that RTM are even more aggressive then Dovii, until a Dovii get size on them.

As far as breeding a Dovii to an RTM, those questions are better left for the Hybrid section. You won’t find much love for hybrids here. Many, including myself really hate it when people pollute the hobby with hybrids as it’s a quickly spreading epidemic. Many many cichlids you find in pet stores are hybrids and anymore you can’t trust them unless you get them from a trusted source.
However, I will tell you I think having a male RTM and Female Dovii will increase your chances. If you where serious about it. You would get 2 or 3 female Dovii and but the male RTM in a tank with them and let a pair form while they are small.

As far as longevity, no all those fish will absolutely not work in that tank long term. Oscars can reach up to 12 inches or so, Flowerhorns often hit 12 but I’ve heard of rumors of bigger. The Jack Dempsey will hit around 8-10 and the green terror around 10. The chances they don’t kill each other are very slim. RTM’s top out around 12 inches and female Dovii can hit in the high 20’s but much more commonly 18-20inches.
You see where this would be a problem them?

If you have a 6ft tank you MIGHT be able to get away with the Oscar, Jack, and green terror in it.
I really just can’t imagine the RTM being peaceful, but maybe? Each cichlid have completely different personalities. So it will work for alittle bit, maybe. But you really need to think about what you want to do in the future. Even if it does work you will have many a torn fin.

There is my rant I hope some of it was informative.
 
Okidokie, Well here is my honest answer.

You can in fact keep all those fish in that 160, eventually probably sooner then later the RTM will kill the Oscar and GT even at 3 or 4 inches an RTM will be more aggressive then a 5 inch Oscar or a 5 inch green terror. My personal experience has led me to believe that RTM are even more aggressive then Dovii, until a Dovii get size on them.

As far as breeding a Dovii to an RTM, those questions are better left for the Hybrid section. You won’t find much love for hybrids here. Many, including myself really hate it when people pollute the hobby with hybrids as it’s a quickly spreading epidemic. Many many cichlids you find in pet stores are hybrids and anymore you can’t trust them unless you get them from a trusted source.
However, I will tell you I think having a male RTM and Female Dovii will increase your chances. If you where serious about it. You would get 2 or 3 female Dovii and but the male RTM in a tank with them and let a pair form while they are small.

As far as longevity, no all those fish will absolutely not work in that tank long term. Oscars can reach up to 12 inches or so, Flowerhorns often hit 12 but I’ve heard of rumors of bigger. The Jack Dempsey will hit around 8-10 and the green terror around 10. The chances they don’t kill each other are very slim. RTM’s top out around 12 inches and female Dovii can hit in the high 20’s but much more commonly 18-20inches.
You see where this would be a problem them?

If you have a 6ft tank you MIGHT be able to get away with the Oscar, Jack, and green terror in it.
I really just can’t imagine the RTM being peaceful, but maybe? Each cichlid have completely different personalities. So it will work for alittle bit, maybe. But you really need to think about what you want to do in the future. Even if it does work you will have many a torn fin.

There is my rant I hope some of it was informative.
Ok well then
Okidokie, Well here is my honest answer.

You can in fact keep all those fish in that 160, eventually probably sooner then later the RTM will kill the Oscar and GT even at 3 or 4 inches an RTM will be more aggressive then a 5 inch Oscar or a 5 inch green terror. My personal experience has led me to believe that RTM are even more aggressive then Dovii, until a Dovii get size on them.

As far as breeding a Dovii to an RTM, those questions are better left for the Hybrid section. You won’t find much love for hybrids here. Many, including myself really hate it when people pollute the hobby with hybrids as it’s a quickly spreading epidemic. Many many cichlids you find in pet stores are hybrids and anymore you can’t trust them unless you get them from a trusted source.
However, I will tell you I think having a male RTM and Female Dovii will increase your chances. If you where serious about it. You would get 2 or 3 female Dovii and but the male RTM in a tank with them and let a pair form while they are small.

As far as longevity, no all those fish will absolutely not work in that tank long term. Oscars can reach up to 12 inches or so, Flowerhorns often hit 12 but I’ve heard of rumors of bigger. The Jack Dempsey will hit around 8-10 and the green terror around 10. The chances they don’t kill each other are very slim. RTM’s top out around 12 inches and female Dovii can hit in the high 20’s but much more commonly 18-20inches.
You see where this would be a problem them?

If you have a 6ft tank you MIGHT be able to get away with the Oscar, Jack, and green terror in it.
I really just can’t imagine the RTM being peaceful, but maybe? Each cichlid have completely different personalities. So it will work for alittle bit, maybe. But you really need to think about what you want to do in the future. Even if it does work you will have many a torn fin.

There is my rant I hope some of it was informative.
Well what i wanted was the meanest fish i could get! I thought a hybrid would be good but guess thats not the case.
So for the meanest fish . Would it be the dovii or the rtm? Which everone you say i will most Likely keep. I mean i will get a pair! But i would like to keep a Species tank.
 
Ok well then

Well what i wanted was the meanest fish i could get! I thought a hybrid would be good but guess thats not the case.
So for the meanest fish . Would it be the dovii or the rtm? Which everone you say i will most Likely keep. I mean i will get a pair! But i would like to keep a Species tank.
And can i keep a pair of rtm in a 160? For life
 
At small sizes RTM’s are in my opinion the most agressive of the Parachromis. Dovii eventually get more agressive as they grow larger. Becoming arguably the most agressive Cichlid there is. Mostly because of their size, there isn’t anything in the cichlid world that can stand up to a 30inch Dovii.

A pair of Dovii require a much larger tanks I suggest a 8x4x3 or larger.

As long as the 160 is 6ft long yes, I think you have a good chance of keeping a pair of RTM. Could be a lovely tank, I love RTM’s.
Again the best way to get a pair is to get 5 or 6 little ones and let it pair naturally and rehome the rest.
 
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