Help my green arow!!

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Did you specify what type of salt? No you didn't. Would you recommend adding 1.5 KG of refined table salt?
Do you even know how bad the fins are?
Asian fins heal in days when ripped not weeks as you wrote and that from experience!
If it's only got ripped fins then the poster doesn't need to add as much salt as you say.
If the poster fish has now got a secondary infection (which is unlightly in the space of a night.) then more salt or even meds like melefix are needed. But we're in the realm of pure speculation now aren't we, and that's dangerous.
Water changes are the only really good advice you gave.
Bumping up the amount of unspecified salt to a missive 1.5K.Gs (that's a lot more than "some" the op is already adding "some".) is not a good idea unless you know 100% what the problem is.
 
What is the temperature of your water?
is the fish biting it's own tail? seems bad for one night.
Tail Biting
Syndrome : There are two suspected causes namely,Bacteria Infection on Tail due to poor water quality or bacterias introduce from feeders (esp frogs) or tank mates.The fish tries to reduce itchness by biting its own tail. The fish mistaken the tail as another fish and starts to attack the intruder which happens tp be its own tail. The condition can be improved by switching off the tank light. Symptoms : The fish bites its own tail. The end result would torn and uneven tail fin. Remedy : Immediately change water, provide more aeration, add more air stones to increase the level of dissolved oxygen in the water.Change the filter.Raise water temperature to 34°C gradually (1 degree over 2 hour). Add 1% coarse salt to the water. Add commerically available fin rot solutions. .Change water everyday (20-30%) for 3-6 days to maintain good water quality. If condition doesn't improve, introduce other attractions to the tank, eg, place a mirror near the tank to distract its attention or introduce another tank mate (parrot fish etc).If tail biting never ceases, the last option will be to perform a tail cutting operation on its tail. However, in many cases, the tail will not regain its previous glory after the operation. It is adviseable to get a professional to perform this operation and many local fish shops do provide this service for S$50.

Tail Cutting Procedure. Transfer the fish into a "holding tank; with very low water level(about 3-6 inches above the fish) , add naesthesia
into the tank drop by drop.Watch the fish for few minutes before adding another drop, never overdose especially when administering anaesthesia!Once the fish loses consciousness, remove the fish and place it on the clean damp cloth.Use the scissors(make sure sterilized) to carefully trim of the affected tail fin by following the fan shape contour of the fin. Place the fish back into the tank and increase the amount of dissolved oxygen in the tank, if necessary direct the airflow of the airstone towards the gills of the fish to help accelerate consciousness.After regaining its consciousness, let the fish rest and off all lights so as to let the fish recuperate under dim conditions.Feeding is not required if the fish shows no signs of interest in food.Change water everyday (20-30%)for 3-6 days to maintain good water quality.Salt may be added to reduce parasite attacks and help to increase recovery rate.

Fin Rot
Cause : Bacteria Infection on fins due to poor water quality or bacterias introduced from feeders or tank mates. Symptoms : The fin edges become pale and start to rot. Remedy :Immediately change water, provide more aeration, add more air stones to increase the level of dissolved oxygen in the water.Change the filter.Raise water temperature to 34°C gradually (1 degree over 2 hour). Add 1% coarse salt to the water. Add commerically available fin rot solutions. .Change water everyday (20-30%) for 3-6 days to maintain good water quality.

This information has been cut and pasted from "MFK arowana disease and cure" thread.
Hope it helps.
 
i raised the temperature to 82 degrees when i did the 50% water change last night, the fish doesnt seem to be biting its own tail, should i just cut the tail and fins off?
 
If it's not biting it own tail I'd do what it says above for fin rot before you do anything as drastic as cutting it's fins off. It's curable.
 
Raising temperature is good but don't do anything to the filter yet. This will affect your water quality. The damaged fin will shed off initially (this is not fin rot), then only you will see them growing back from the base. Only the tail part looks serious, that may take longer to heal. Try not to put any anti bacterial medication as almost all will kill off BBs for your bio filtration and complicate matters. Change water as per my earlier suggestion but not 50%.
The key here is to provide a stable environment for the aro to heal itself. The sooner you get it to feed, the faster it is to recover. Too much changes to water parameters will cause more stress to the fish.
 
classic-chassis;3248655; said:
Did you specify what type of salt? No you didn't. Would you recommend adding 1.5 KG of refined table salt?
Do you even know how bad the fins are?
Asian fins heal in days when ripped not weeks as you wrote and that from experience!
If it's only got ripped fins then the poster doesn't need to add as much salt as you say.
If the poster fish has now got a secondary infection (which is unlightly in the space of a night.) then more salt or even meds like melefix are needed. But we're in the realm of pure speculation now aren't we, and that's dangerous.
Water changes are the only really good advice you gave.
Bumping up the amount of unspecified salt to a missive 1.5K.Gs (that's a lot more than "some" the op is already adding "some".) is not a good idea unless you know 100% what the problem is.

I got really sick of trying to explain simple science to you. The amount of salt that needs to be added depends on the size of the tank and the level of salinity you need to achieve. Now, I'm not going to tell you why or how I arrive at 1.5kg for a 125g tank because it'll be beyond you :nilly:. As for the choice of salt, any edible salt will do. Using table salt won't kill your fish, it's just more expensive. Salt at a certain concentration will have anti bacterial properties. It is commonly used instead of anti bacterial medication because it doesn't intefere with BBs in the filter.
Adding melafix will help, but more salt for secondary infection? Who taught you that? What's the logic behind it?
The problem is - this poor aro is beaten up by its tankmate and we can help by stabilising him for a speedy recovery (you don't heal the fish, the fish heals itself).
Btw, I have a pond full of adult reds (20 the last time I counted) and inevitably have to treat aros for small nicks & cuts now and then. Recovery will depend on extend of damage. I'm telling leehom weeks because I don't want him to be impatient and do too much. If you still have problems with salt, google it or take it up with the manufacturer.:D
Period.
 
classic-chassis;3249239; said:
If it's not biting it own tail I'd do what it says above for fin rot before you do anything as drastic as cutting it's fins off. It's curable.

What I was thinking :S
 
commfreak;3249475; said:
I got really sick of trying to explain simple science to you. The amount of salt that needs to be added depends on the size of the tank and the level of salinity you need to achieve. Now, I'm not going to tell you why or how I arrive at 1.5kg for a 125g tank because it'll be beyond you :nilly:.
Your powers of deduction are second to none.

commfreak;3249475; said:
As for the choice of salt, any edible salt will do. Using table salt won't kill your fish, it's just more expensive. Salt at a certain concentration will have anti bacterial properties. It is commonly used instead of anti bacterial medication because it doesn't intefere with BBs in the filter.
Adding melafix will help, but more salt for secondary infection? Who taught you that? What's the logic behind it?
You did.
commfreak;3249475; said:
125gal will need about 1.5kg of salt to increase salinity to 0.3%. I doubt 25 table spoon would amount to 1.5kgs. Add more salt accordingly.

commfreak;3249475; said:
Btw, I have a pond full of adult reds (20 the last time I counted) and inevitably have to treat aros for small nicks & cuts now and then. Recovery will depend on extend of damage.
Is that why your attitude stinks when anyone else doesn't agree with you?

commfreak;3249475; said:
Have you ever seen an adult silver swim? Silvers have a very soft tail. Even an adult 3 footer will be able to turn gracefully in a 2.5ft wide tank. 5' length x 2.5' wide x 2.5' height. The width of the tank is more important for aros than the length. Like I said, those measurements are minimum. If you can afford a bigger tank, than all the better. Be smart; just don't pretend to be :ROFL:

commfreak;3249475; said:
I'm telling leehom weeks because I don't want him to be impatient and do too much. If you still have problems with salt, google it or take it up with the manufacturer.:D
Period.
Patients is a virtue you seem to lack.
Are you still advising he put 1.5 kgs of salt in the tank?
 
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