Help! There's something wrong with my Jar...?

[klowd123]

sorry for your lost.

 

[morbidprince]

Oh man, that is sad. I was following the thread, but unfortunately i could not offer anything useful. The worst thing is that you don't even know what went wrong.

RIP Grumpy

Thank you...and I know...the whole thing keeps replaying in my head may if i did this maybe if I did that...well at least I know he's not in pain anymore... just now there's a void in my monster tank...

oh man, i feel very sorry for you and your fish and not so helpful. i dont even want to go back and try work out where it went wrong. i can say though that i have seen that milky look in water and i think its bacteria load thriving of too much toxic nutrient. only the other week i dropped some fish off to a store and they had that problem. i told the shop about it and am not sure if they did anything but 50 of the 300 fish that went in that system died that week.
R.I.P grumpy

i did go back, you had a lot of foam and murky water after a 25 percent exchange and maybe a blackout. the foam indicates a high organic load, possibly spurred on by a crash on oxygen or something wrong with the change water.
either way this means you mustve had a decent biomass of stuff living then dying in the tank.
what i would like to see on home fish tanks is a filter set up with a swirl separation unit with a tapered bottom so that muck can be drained off as opposed to staying in the tank and growing things you dont want. then the water can go direct to your media. i hav these on my 2000 litre recirc tanks and i tell ya i tap of so much stinky crap every few days and it makes me shudder to think of what it used to do to my water before i had the ability to tap it off to waste.

I didn't know such filters existed? Are there ones for smaller tanks?? Yea never overlook a poweroutage again! I thank you for all the help you've given... although it didn't save Grumpy hopefully it will save some other beloved fish in the future. I'm not ready to give up having monster yet, Grumpy would want someone to take his throne... well..maybe, I've hung his picture on the wall amongst all the other beloved fishy souls that went before him.

Sorry for your lost, he was a great looking fish...RIP Grumpy.

Thank you...

sorry for your lost.

Thank you...

 

[ausarow]

i have seen them for sale as sand sediment traps but other than that never small enough to fit in your bedroom or whatever..
but no best i think you have to make one. imagine a big petrol funnel with a cylinder on top of it. just keep your eye open for one..then you stand that up with an inflow plumbed up above half way and an outflow basically the same height but on opposit sides. then you have a tap on the botom that you open to drop a litre or so of balck fish killing sludge right out of your water. the water will run in the unit and then out but the heavy solids will settle in the bottom taper section awaiting your maintenance drop. i hate standard filters they sell you that keep all the suspended and settlable wastes in your tank water waiting for it to rot.
if you really want to beat it, set another one up with fine mesh netting, after that, it will catch all the tiny particles and when you doing your weekly water change you shut flow off to that and then blast under it with an airstone breaking the junk free of the particle trapping fibres and then you drain that out. then you fill them both back up and open em up and go again.
the best and most effective water changes you will acheive./

 

[morbidprince]

hm..it's hard for me to imagine such a system..do you have a photo? If it's possible to build one I don't mind investing in one like this. I don't want what happened to Grumpy to happy to any other fish.. that was a sow painful death.

Do you have a name of the one you use? Something I can look up and google on. Also...where are you storing your 4000 gallon tank?? My 180g is a monster itself, a 4000g must be a swimming pool!

Also speaking of natural systems, there is this new thing in my LFS that uses plants, it's a huge tank filled with plants and it uses the natural wetland system to clean the water. No chemicals, nothing, just water and a box filled with live plants. Have you seen it? It's $200 to set one up... I"m wondering if it'll be worth it...