Help To Bring Asian Aros Back To The US...

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Your the man. Being a law student certainly helps. If you can bein that you study law maybe you can write up a draft of the petition. I would do it, but fear it wouldn't be professional enough. If you do so post it here so all could view it. Then maybe we can talk to some moderators and see about making it into a sticky on all the sub-forums. After that we could basically have a test signing. We tell all the member's who wish to support the petition to post their name and state. We'll get a good idea about seeing whose serious and whose not. Lots of people view threads and never post replies. Those are the aquarists who don't care about anyone, but themselves. We'll be able to weed those out so when a formal draft is written we know who to send it to. We also need to let people know the seriousness of being responsible and signing the petition quickly and sending it to the next signer. Hope we can get this ball rolling. Wish this was done at the begining of the thread, maybe we could be buying our Asian Arowanas today.
 
Alright Koltsix, Id be more than willing to do it. Two things though: 1) I dont have time until May, Ive got finals and stuff to prepare for, 2) I need someone to provide me with all the relevant information about how we can ensure that captive animals only are sold, and point me towards other nations who allow this, or any who have recently amended their laws to do so. Then I could draft it up, but its not something particularly in the province of a law student, just needs to say, basically this law exists to protect the native population of these animals, and our hobby doesnt affect them, in fact allowing this could also help the natural population grow by reducing the price and the interest in obtaining wild caught specimins, and a lot of people want to own these things and are serious about it, bla bla bla. But yea, Id be willing to do it provided you guys can wait till May and can help me find some of the info I mentioned above.... And then maybe I could get a free super red??? Jk
 
gonnelro;1660465;1660465 said:
Alright Koltsix, Id be more than willing to do it. Two things though: 1) I dont have time until May, Ive got finals and stuff to prepare for, 2) I need someone to provide me with all the relevant information about how we can ensure that captive animals only are sold, and point me towards other nations who allow this, or any who have recently amended their laws to do so. Then I could draft it up, but its not something particularly in the province of a law student, just needs to say, basically this law exists to protect the native population of these animals, and our hobby doesnt affect them, in fact allowing this could also help the natural population grow by reducing the price and the interest in obtaining wild caught specimins, and a lot of people want to own these things and are serious about it, bla bla bla. But yea, Id be willing to do it provided you guys can wait till May and can help me find some of the info I mentioned above.... And then maybe I could get a free super red??? Jk
just kidding about the free aro right?
 
I'll see what I can find out. I've seen Asian Aro's for sale I'll just contact one of the breeders and see how they guarantee that their Aro's are captive bred. I believe I should be able to get some info out of them. I'll just point out the huge U.S. market and the money they stand to make. I think they'll be willing to let me know about their laws and I'll figure out how they can help us. Unless there are some MFK members who could help in that respect. If anyone out their has the ability to buy Asian Aro's legally please let us know. See if you can find the law in your area regarding their sale and inform us by posting in this thread. Please don't just view this thread all who can help please contribute some valuable info to this worthy cause. I implore you this could not only help the U.S., but everyone as Asian Aro prices may lower,and help save the wild population of these remarkable fish. I believe alot of wild caught specimens are caught and sold to areas where these fish are illegal in the hopes of making a huge profit by the smuggler. Please help make these fish more attainable to all of us who love this beautiful fish, as well as help save the Asian Aro from possible extinction. Someday a large captive bred population may be the very thing that saves this amazing fish. Thanx in advance to all who try to help.
 
Actually, much easier to get one of these things started than I thought. I found a website that you can download the software from, and you just include a short summary of what you want, and post it up here. Ill get it going soon, sorry for the delay, its a busy time of year for me.
 
**sigh**

there is already an established system to track legal aros. the way breeders can legally export captive breed fish is with CITES paperwork and micro-chips to legal countries. FYI cites has nothing to do with it being illegal in the US. please read the savethearowana website for more info
 
Heres my take:

Legalize them!!!

There is no reason not to - i will support any petition, etc, to get them legalized, even if i may never be able to own one. They are some of the most beautiful fish, IMO, and captive bred specimens should be able to be kept :) We can keep tigers in Texas, why not Aros? :P
 
I think fish are some of the most poorly regulated group of animals in the US - the laws they have for them make no sense.

You can buy tinfoil barbs, irridescent sharks, pacu, plecos, etc, at any wal mart or petco in the US, even though these fish need tanks of at least 100 gallons as adults, which very few americans can provide, and which often either die in cramped tanks or are released to the wild.

However, such fish as piranhas and snakeheads, are banned in many states in fear of them being released, even if they pose no greater a threat to the environment than pacu and plecos.

And finally, fish like the asia arowana, which can be farmed to ease stress on wild populations, and sold, are banned because they are endangered. But so are tigers, and many other exotic animals, and they arent banned. Any american could own a tiger if he wanted, yet dedicated hobbyist cannot maintain and potentially breed captive bred arowanas? Why?

^There is my logic - we need a rewritting of most of the laws and regulations concerning tropical fish in america, especially the asian arowana, and we are the only people who care enough to promote change
 
badisbadis101;1666485;1666485 said:
I think fish are some of the most poorly regulated group of animals in the US - the laws they have for them make no sense.

You can buy tinfoil barbs, irridescent sharks, pacu, plecos, etc, at any wal mart or petco in the US, even though these fish need tanks of at least 100 gallons as adults, which very few americans can provide, and which often either die in cramped tanks or are released to the wild.

However, such fish as piranhas and snakeheads, are banned in many states in fear of them being released, even if they pose no greater a threat to the environment than pacu and plecos.

And finally, fish like the asia arowana, which can be farmed to ease stress on wild populations, and sold, are banned because they are endangered. But so are tigers, and many other exotic animals, and they arent banned. Any american could own a tiger if he wanted, yet dedicated hobbyist cannot maintain and potentially breed captive bred arowanas? Why?

^There is my logic - we need a rewritting of most of the laws and regulations concerning tropical fish in america, especially the asian arowana, and we are the only people who care enough to promote change
Wow someone is fired up about it! Which is good because we need people who are deicated to this and are serious about changing this! because your right the laws make no sense and must change!
 
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