Help To Bring Asian Aros Back To The US...

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rottbo;1174616; said:
I know a few guys over there let me send some emails out
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That's fine. We want to contact them at some point. So far, FWS wants a list of breeders as an "approved list" to speed up the ESA permitting process. How the breeders get on and stay on that list is in the works. It should be desirable for the breeders to be on that list.
 
^ lol! that was from 2003

btw ppl. please check with me or phil before contacting and breeders/farms. nothing is set in concrete yet.
 
parodox;1175013; said:
Sorry, I'm an idiot!
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LOL. Don't feel bad. When I saw that article almost a year ago, I failed to see the date at first too. However, that was my anchor in getting FWS to talk to me. It was sort of a "you said right here in 2003 that you were interested in allowing the import of Asian Arowanas. What do I need to do" kinda thing...

As Burt said, nothing is set in concrete, and I think we need to approach this in an organized fashion. If you're interested in helping, please contact us and lets do this through a unified voice. Savethearowana.com We don't want to annoy anyone or put a bad taste in their mouth by inundating them with emails from all over the place with no knowledge of what we've achieved or haven't achieved so far.

Phil
 
wizzin;1174320; said:
Not yet. We need breeder contacts. If anyone has any ties/contacts with any of the breeders in Asia, please PM me or b-man with the information.
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Have you contacted RockyGoldy/Imperial Palace SGP yet? Or even Koji/Aro Dynasty Or other vendors? I know they're vendors but obviously have close connection to breeders and/or their own breeding ponds.

Just a curiousity if you have, have not or are looking for someone with better ties to a breeder like really close friends.

Sounds like you guys are doing a great job with this btw. I know there's still a long way to go. But wasn't expecting this much progress this soon.
 
wizzin;1174711; said:
That's fine. We want to contact them at some point. So far, FWS wants a list of breeders as an "approved list" to speed up the ESA permitting process. How the breeders get on and stay on that list is in the works. It should be desirable for the breeders to be on that list.
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That would be a cash crop for them.

Im just curious if there are any breeding programs for reintroduction to the wild?
 
PMK;1225953; said:
That would be a cash crop for them.

Im just curious if there are any breeding programs for reintroduction to the wild?
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No. Nobody is even thinking about reintroduction. This has been discussed over and over, and to reiterate, restocking with captive bred fish can introduce disease to the wild fish, and the fish that are captive bred have been line bred for their color and marketability, not their survivability traits. Restocking is a last ditch effort. Since there are still fish in the wild, the purpose of conservation is to sustain those wild fish.

Take a look at this document to get a better idea of what conservation efforts are being carried out. This doc is on Cambodia, but I know that they are working in Indonesia and possibly other countries as well.

http://www.savethearowana.com/images/Dragonfish%20brochure.pdf
 
wizzin;891871; said:
More importantly, the museum permit only allows the import of dead animals and or their parts. The biological permit only allows for the import of blood, tissue sample.
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Ok, this was posted forever ago, but I was just browsing through the thread, and this triggered an idea. Has no one thought of cloning? (Already been posted maybe?) If dead animals and "tissues" are available, there's no reason why the fish shouldn't be clonable. I mean hell, they're even considering cloning a wooly mammoth from a long dead source. I know it's extravagant, but so are many of the other methods mentioned to get these fish into the US. =P

Mammoth source:
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/06/070625-dna-resurrection.html
 
>:(;1339041; said:
Ok, this was posted forever ago, but I was just browsing through the thread, and this triggered an idea. Has no one thought of cloning? (Already been posted maybe?) If dead animals and "tissues" are available, there's no reason why the fish shouldn't be clonable. I mean hell, they're even considering cloning a wooly mammoth from a long dead source. I know it's extravagant, but so are many of the other methods mentioned to get these fish into the US. =P

Mammoth source:
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/06/070625-dna-resurrection.html
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i like it :)
 
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