Help! Water change armageddon!!!

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smitty03281964 said:
They are bothered by the chlorine. That is why when I go to refill my tanks I do not do it all at once. I add 15-20 gallons and wait 30 minutes. I never have a problem and I use no chemicals.
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U may think u use NO chemicals but ask the water company how much they put in ur tap when treating...... they have to kill pests and micro organisms. Prime takes these out and makes the water safe! Unless u have well water use a good dechlor. This was step 2 of fishkeeping ppl.

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Weather is getting warmer, alot of cities use chloramine during the warmer moths as it does not evaporate. BTW chloramine is chlorine bonded with ammonia, a very toxic mix for fish. Can you do an ammonia test of your water? I would double dose with prime and do another water change with RO/DI water which you can usually get cheap at health food supermarkets.
 
Gruff Master said:
I agree. The chlorine in the water was the problem. I add conditioner before, during, and afterward just to be certain. I know its overkill but I don't like losing fish. I need a setup like JK47. That would be the way to go.
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This a question more then a quote why are you suppose to add it before the water change I have always done it after I drained the water and started adding the new water. So why add it before you add the water or not after ?? I am just wondering because I have never lost a fish


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Hellman said:
This a question more then a quote why are you suppose to add it before the water change I have always done it after I drained the water and started adding the new water. So why add it before you add the water or not after ?? I am just wondering because I have never lost a fish


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Pouring untreated tap into a tank is just diluting the chlorine and ammonia it carries it may not be 100% toxic that time but why risk it??

Thats why i use 5 gal buckets for water change and pour in prime when the buckets filling. Less stress on fish

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Bderick67 said:
Weather is getting warmer, alot of cities use chloramine during the warmer moths as it does not evaporate. BTW chloramine is chlorine bonded with ammonia, a very toxic mix for fish. Can you do an ammonia test of your water? I would double dose with prime and do another water change with RO/DI water which you can usually get cheap at health food supermarkets.
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City water can vary a lot depending on the season. Some cities even source their water differently during different times of the year. When we have a heat wave, sometimes the city will go to underground storage containers where it's a lot higher in ph/kh.


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Hope the fish recovered. It has happened to me before and I usually do another large water change right then with more Prime.

I'm probably wasting money, but I always triple dose Prime for water changes based on the entire volume of the tank. e.g. for a 200g tank, I add 40ml when I start filling (no matter how much water I change) and 20ml after it's done.
 
There is another factor that has not been mentioned. Winter and early spring weather sometimes creates super saturation condition of oxygen in tap water (especially in the north where I live). This can cause gas bubble embolism in fish and be fatal. The best way to add water straight from the tap is to add it to the sump first, or to let it fall into a filter or over a rock, or piece of wood. This allows the supersaturated oxygen to disperse before getting to the fish.
This is much akin to the bends, nitrogen saturation that scuba divers get.
All water providers in the US have a chlorine, chloramine standard they must not exceed, a normal dechlorinator will neutralize this.
 
F1 VET said:
Pouring untreated tap into a tank is just diluting the chlorine and ammonia it carries it may not be 100% toxic that time but why risk it??

Thats why i use 5 gal buckets for water change and pour in prime when the buckets filling. Less stress on fish

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I am not saying you guys are wrong by any means I understand what your saying and I will start adding it before durning and after. But I have done it this way for over 2 yrs and never had a problem and I didn't know about the weather change, changes the way the water comes out that is good info thanks for putting more detail into this thread


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peathenster said:
Hope the fish recovered. It has happened to me before and I usually do another large water change right then with more Prime.

I'm probably wasting money, but I always triple dose Prime for water changes based on the entire volume of the tank. e.g. for a 200g tank, I add 40ml when I start filling (no matter how much water I change) and 20ml after it's done.
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This is what I do. I know Prime is supposed to be the best and I might be wasting money but I'd just rather be safe than sorry.

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