Help with fishless cycle

[Deaths Sting]

Well that store is usualy quite busy and I've noticed often they give advice that even I know isn't the best advice (I'm quite new to the hobby).
That's the best thing about this forum, everyone is so helpful and know a LOT more than most fish stores.

They were the cheapest, less than £1 each. The guy who served us couldn't have been any older than 16 I'd say, the other staff don't seem to care much. They just want to sell you anything they can.
But, I don't drive and that's the nearest place to me.

that makes sense. u should increase the amount of food ur feeding, more waste = more ammonia. then again maybe u can return the fish and get some pure ammonia from the drug store/hardware store. it would be a lot faster since u skip the eating, pooping and decomposing parts.

ur starting with the final product fist, rather then going through all that work to get it.

u should not have to wait for anything to decompose to get ammonia. its a lot more work and its a lot slower!

Pure ammonia will be the best route to go.

 

[Toby_H]

Seachem Stability isn’t a “chemical”… it’s bacteria…
　
　
Prime converts ammonia into ammonium for 24 hours, then the ammonium converts back to ammonium. Both ammonia and ammonium register as ammonia in all aquarium grade ammonia tests.
　
　
Nitrite and nitrate are “bound” or chemically converted for closer to 48 huors, shich is how/why Seachem states Prime’s effects last 24~48 hours.
　
　
Plants do not “provide bacteria” but instead plants perform a similar function as bacteria (consume waste byproducts). I do not believe that fruit would be a good source for bacteria and I wouldn’t recommend putting any acidic fruits into the system as this could have adverse effects on PH, KH, etc.
　
　
I would not recommend increasing the feeding schedule. Also suggesting you have to wait for fish waste to biodegrade for ammonia to be produced is false. Fish emit ammonia directly. Fish poop does break down and release ammonia, but fish also release ammonia (similar to urine) both while pooping as well as from their gills (similar to peeing).
　
　
Forgive the bluntness about this, but there is a lot of misleading or incorrect information in this thread. I suggest you read some of the other recent threads on the cycling process as they will have better information.

No offense

 

[Clammie]

Thanks again for the info, tested again this morning (after not doing any changes for 2 days).
Ammonia is on 0 mg/l and nitrite on <0.3 mg/l.
I'm a little confused? Am I cycled? What's going on?