Help with Goonch Identification / Heat resistance?

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Marcus_H said:
Dammit i still seem to be incapable of telling them apart, i was shure the fat one was a true yarelli :(. Weull the owner of the 2 in the first link says that they are breathing absolut calm at 27°....
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Honest mistake man. These guys are extremely difficult to tell apart. The easiest ones for me to point out are HLG (B. bagarius) suchus and rutilus. My old LLG (B. yarelli) resembled a rutilus in a lot of ways. If it weren't ID'd by my buddy Matt, estarego8, I would've completely thought it were a large ruti and not have gotten it.
 
Yeah i read it, but there is the true Yarelli or LLG. But how is it possible, that a HLG is totally comfortabe at 27°/80.5 Fahrenheit ? The owner got a strong curent, but still...
 
Marcus_H said:
Yeah i read it, but there is the true Yarelli or LLG. But how is it possible, that a HLG is totally comfortabe at 27°/80.5 Fahrenheit ? The owner got a strong curent, but still...
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We call them HLG because they are the ones found in the cold, alpine streams in the foothills of the himalayas. They are also found farther downstream in warm water as well, so long as it is well oxygenated. The LLG isn't found upstream. This is the difference.

HLG definitely seem to prefer an unheated tank, but HLG kept in a sufficiently oxygenated tank at tropical temps will absolutely thrive. Those of us in the core of the goonch community have something of an agreement that we won't encourage people to put a HLG in tropical temps, because while they can thrive, it is much easier to kill them if you mess up.
 
Yeah and this is the reason why i am still looking for a true LLG, but so far all that's getting over here seems to be either HLG or Rutilus.

Because you never now weather or not your pump might fail and last summer we reached like 30°/86Fahrenheit over here, so this is really difficult.
 
LLG and sp. indochina are definitely the most difficult to find in my area and then there's suchus which seem to be coming in more often now. Have you considered rutilus? They're more tolerant of warmer water as well and are much easier to find.
 
Well the most reasonable thing to do of course is getting a rutilus, since it is easier to get and stays probably quit a bit shorter.

But the idea of owning such a giant has it's charme ;) Also i always tought that this greenish colour was most common for the LLG. But since this fat Bagarius in the first pic seems to be a HLG i am not so shure, because that one shure looked kinda green to me.
 
Marcus_H said:
Well the most reasonable thing to do of course is getting a rutilus, since it is easier to get and stays probably quit a bit shorter.

But the idea of owning such a giant has it's charme ;) Also i always tought that this greenish colour was most common for the LLG. But since this fat Bagarius in the first pic seems to be a HLG i am not so shure, because that one shure looked kinda green to me.
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Actually from the pics that my friend has shared with me, who is actually a big supplier from India, for tors, barcas and bagarius.

All the HLG have more greenish tint and a denser pattern, compared to the ones that are caught from the lower altitude areas.

The ones from the lower lands are actually more brown yellowish in color.
 
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