Help with GT/JD

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Just a bit of friendly advice, 33 long would not be enough space for a male JD. I have a 33 long and have grown a cichlid to 7" in it, and t at which point it was too small. That fish was a skinny juvenile, I can't imagine a bulky adult JD in there. Female would probably be fine tho.

To the OP, some more suggestions for cichlids that would be better in this size tank:
C. Sajica
Salvini
Centrarchus
Hericthys Deppi
Hericthys tamasopoensis


yeah i know ive really been on the fence with the 33. i started a thread on here a month or so ago about it and had a lot of support from people, thought even you commented on it...but ive since had my sights on a taller tank cause i want some more rainbows too.

op has a 15-16" wide tank though? thats not big enough either?
 
yeah i know ive really been on the fence with the 33. i started a thread on here a month or so ago about it and had a lot of support from people, thought even you commented on it...but ive since had my sights on a taller tank cause i want some more rainbows too.

op has a 15-16" wide tank though? thats not big enough either?

Quite possible, I comment on lots of posts and can't remember them later hah. Don't think I would have condoned a male in a 33 based off my experience growing a lyonsi out in one.
"Big enough" is all relative of course and opinionated... I think the OP's tank is not a definite "NO", but is on the small side. Wouldn't be the end of the world to keep a GT or JD in there, but when people don't already have the fish and are asking advice on what to buy, I generally try to steer them to an option that won't be in a "minimum" size tank.
 
Here are some Central American species that would in my opinion not drastically outgrow the OPs tank.
Amatintlania nanoluteus

Amatitlania honduran red points

Amatitlania mynae

Hetertilapia multispinossa

or there are other species from other continents that won't be quite so crammed into a tank that because it too small, which usually ends up a disaster.
Coptodon bythobates

Etroplus canarensus

Paretroplus kieneri
 
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How hard is buffered water to keep up with weekly water changes? Is it as simple as just finding the right amount of b.soda to add and adding it with water changes? Thanks for the reply
Pretty much. You may find there's a little trial and error at first to arrive at amounts to use and your own preferred routine or method.

I've done it so long I don't do exact measurements, just estimate as I'm filling, do a pH test nearly full or full as a sanity check, add a bit of baking soda if needed at that point. You could certainly measure it out if you liked. Either way, what I am fussy about is to do a pH test at the end (or as you go) to confirm you hit the mark, since the water from your tap can vary at different times of year, city water treatment isn't always consistent, etc.

Some prefer (or think it's important) to mix your buffer in water before adding. Was a time I did that but I haven't in many years. After a while you learn what's actually critical and what's not, or what's more a matter of personal preference and what doesn't make much difference to your fish.

I could add more detail, but that's the basics, especially if you're simply trying to get to the mid 7s pH or thereabouts. Contrary to what you read sometimes, fish don't need rock steady pH all their lives and few fish will notice differences of a few tenths pH from one water change to another-- all I'm saying is most fish are pretty forgiving within a reasonable margin for error. Truth be known, pH may vary daily in some tanks, and many fish experience various pH swings and cycles in their wild habitat.
 
Quite possible, I comment on lots of posts and can't remember them later hah. Don't think I would have condoned a male in a 33 based off my experience growing a lyonsi out in one.
"Big enough" is all relative of course and opinionated... I think the OP's tank is not a definite "NO", but is on the small side. Wouldn't be the end of the world to keep a GT or JD in there, but when people don't already have the fish and are asking advice on what to buy, I generally try to steer them to an option that won't be in a "minimum" size tank.

thats understood. it just sounds to me like the op is talking about a roughly 70 gallon tank, which i have a hard time saying no to keeping a jd in. theres a lot of jd out there who would be happy to get into a mansion like that instead of their 29 gallon theyre being kept in.
 
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