Help with ID plz (vid link)

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Here's some pics of the cichlids I need ID'd. Thanks again for the help!


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RonTheRHOM;1269393; said:
ok, you are right. And i dont think that there is an ahli actually, i just looked at your vid again
You may have a..
Protomelas taeniolatus
Protomelas sp. 'Steveni Taiwan Tanzania'
Otopharynx tetraspilus

I'm definitly thinking one of those is a rusty though, but better quality pics are needed really
Definately not a Taiwan Reef.

They are all aulonocara. I will get you the scientific names later. I see a Yellow, some Ruby Reds or German Reds, and possibly some Jacobfreibergi.
 
Personally I only see what is often called ruby red/German reds, and then the yellow, well that one is too young to tell but we will call it a sunshine peacock. Though maybe, just maybe it is some Aulonocara stuartgranti. But still way to young to tell.

OK so I have one question. How long have you had these guys? Because... well they might not be all guys and some might be loosing some of there color. Especially the first one in the picture. If you had them for at least a month already then I am wrong, but well the elongated body/fins is really pointing towards at least the first having been given hormones. All the others look fine, and as the get older they should gain more color (assuming they aren't females).

And sorry ron none of the pictured ones are those. But with just the vid it was too hard to tell.
 
ikevi;1269537; said:
OK so I have one question. How long have you had these guys? Because... well they might not be all guys and some might be loosing some of there color. Especially the first one in the picture. If you had them for at least a month already then I am wrong, but well the elongated body/fins is really pointing towards at least the first having been given hormones. All the others look fine, and as the get older they should gain more color (assuming they aren't females).

I've had them for a little over 2 months, I wanna say. Their colors do seem to be changing a tad bit, the dominant one's being the brighter guys with the purple faces and orange gils in the pics. The first two pictured are the "runts" of the tank, they mostly hide. However, they've always been that color. The one in the first picture is actually getting more red, he was originally mostly a white/silvery body with red fins, and now as you can see, is getting more red.

Thanks for the help guys, I'm gonna look up those species when I'm finished typing this thank you, haha!

And I hope they are males and get brighter, as they are pretty young. Although I wouldn't hate them turning out to be female. These were the brightest at the shop also, there are some still there that are obviously female. I'm also buddies with the owner so I know they don't hormone, but that doesn't mean the breaders don't, it's a shame that happens really.

Thanks again for the help!

P.S.
About how old before these species mature?
 
That is cool. Ok so here is the thing with peacocks, specially the same species. The dom male should get more and more color. The sub doms will basically stay about the color they are at right now. Now as for when they get full color... well that is a tough one since if you have a really good one they might be really colored at ~2 inches. Then again it may be at 4-5 inches. Or never. That goes especially for the sunshine peacocks.

In other words the best color when young will get to be the best when oldest. (Well usually.)

Anyways the only real reason I was saying the first one looked like it may have been hormoned was its elongated body/fins, but at 2 months the hormones should have been gone by now. (Hormones really only add color temp but the fish will naturally color up as they get older assuming they are males. Oh and of course hormones tend to cause the fish to grow elongated fins and such.)
 
I definitely see Aulonocara jacobfreibergi "Eureka" as the first one. (the fins on jacobfreibergi are generally longer than other peacocks)
and also rubescens or german red (red ones with shorter fins).
the one with the yellow behind the gill plate could possibly be aulonocara stuartgranti (Chiwindi) or blue neon peacock... kinda young to tell.
 
Ok, for my next question: how big do these get fully grown? I have them in the 30 gallon atm, but I will be putting them into a 60 gallon eventually. How many could live together in 60 gallons do you think? It's going to be a slate-based tank so they'll have many many crevices to claim as thier own.

Again, thanks for all the help!

Have fun!
 
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