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darcy12877

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I have three motoros, two female one male. My male has slowly has eaten less and less food and now is looking very skiny and would not take any food at all today. I've been feeding only smelt for the past couple months before I was feeding mostly shrimp but switched bec smelt is alot cheaper and I get more food for my money. The females in the same pond are acting normal looking for food eating tons and tons but my male just sitts there and usually will only move if there is food, but today he wouldnt move unless i was buging him and he still didn't eat anything. I did a 40% w/c and am hoping for the best. Tomorow im going out to buy some shrimp and some earth works. At first I thought that mabey males just weren't as aggresive of eaters as females (which is what i've heard), but like I said he wouldn't eat today and I believe im starting to see veins on his disk but I dont see and hips or anything of that sort. It also looks like he is still thick. Idn please someone give me some advice on how I can help my ray...
oh and btw I have had him for almost a year now so he's not new or anything.
 
check your water levels, if everything is fine i bet he is just sick of eating the same thing over and over... best to give them a lil bit of variaty
 
My rays don't eat aggro all the time either.. seems like they get bored with their food. I give them a few days off and some variety, and they eat more vigorously.

However, the prolonged thinning of the disc and lose of weight and appetite is not good.. Any stressers by chance in the tank? tankmates? new additions could of added parasites?


Situations like these now make me raise an eyebrow to thiaminase intake with seafood for our rays, and overfeeding with fatty liver disease.. but it's really hard to make those sorts of diagnosis.
 
Bad news, when i came home from school today I found him dead :( he couldnt have been dead longer than an hour as he looked normal just you know.
I am so confused as to why he died, my water is fine, he was eating ok until yesterday, and now hes dead...
I have no clue to what this could have been from, my first guess would be an internal parissite (sorry about my spelling) but i havnt added ANYTHING, no fish, no new rays, nothing. The only thing i have changed was the food i have been feeding, a months ago about i changed to smelt and he liked it.
My second guess would be something of what miles said, mabey having a fatty diet coud some how have something to do with sudden unexplained deaths of some rays. Alot of things are racing through my head, could a bone in the smelt punctured an internal organ of some sort.
idn all i do no is this was a very bad day :(
 
Miles;2216674; said:
My rays don't eat aggro all the time either.. seems like they get bored with their food. I give them a few days off and some variety, and they eat more vigorously.

However, the prolonged thinning of the disc and lose of weight and appetite is not good.. Any stressers by chance in the tank? tankmates? new additions could of added parasites?


Situations like these now make me raise an eyebrow to thiaminase intake with seafood for our rays, and overfeeding with fatty liver disease.. but it's really hard to make those sorts of diagnosis.
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sorry darcy for your loss
the smelt i get is from canada (freashwater)would these have thiaminase issues??
 
Sorry to hear about your loss. My male castexi starting acting similar to what you described. I hadn't adding anything new or done anything different to the tank in months. He started refusing food and getting skinny. I dosed the tank with a 2x dose of prazi pro and within 2 days he was back to his aggressive self. No idea on what caused your ray to die. They can go weeks without food before they die of starvation so I has to be something else.
 
sorry for your loss darcy... miles you r theory there has been a concern of mine for awhile.... this is why i buy only fresh water shrimps and limit the intake of silver sides and smelts..
 
the smelt i get for my rays is freshwater,i have the bag infront of me right now. it say:
product of canada
Lake smelt
cleaned
packed by Empaquete par presteve foods ltd, wheatley, ontario, canada.

Idn if that help at all
 
I would think the freshwater is better than saltwater? I am not sure.. I am curious as to the effect of thiaminase on rays and stuff..

maybe the food change was the issue?
 
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