Thank you so much. Just have to figure out proper amounts if I can fit him in a 5 gallon bucket when he is weaker & I am stronger. Really, thank you. I may have to write it down for someone else cuz as you probably know - hospitals just stabilize you - so now I spend all day trying for appointments. . . .I like the combo of clove and alkazeltser(sp) clove puts them sleepy time so its first, then drop in a few of the seltzer, it displaces the oxygen in the water and death pretty quick. Other than that blunt force trauma behind the head enof to separate the skull from the spine. brutal but effective.

