High nitrates from tap

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THANK YOU to the people recommending denitrification. I really don't hear about enough on this site. Usually these are dominated by people saying plants will drop it. They will, but not nearly as well as a denitrification reactor (or deep substrate). Sometimes carbon dosing is necessary, sometimes it's not. My tanks don't have nitrate because of my thick substrate and I don't carbon dose.

These bacteria live all over, but they remove nitrate when they are anoxic (no oxygen). So a reactor is just a media-filled chamber with a very slow flow rate so that the bacteria at the beginning of the chamber consume the oxygen, allowing denitrifiers to colonize the rest of it. They also require a carbon source to turn nitrate into nitrogen gas (which gasses off). You may have adequate dissolved carbon in your tank, or you may need to dose a sugar, alcohol, or vinegar to speed the process up. We use molasses at work with our sturgeon, but you should look up vodka dosing in reef tanks for more info. The deep substrate works the same way, allowing water to pass in but oxygen doesn't reach deep into the gravel. You can look up "deep sand beds" for reefs for more info.

Denitrification also buffers your pH. Nitrification will reduce pH as ammonia goes to nitrate, which is why you hear about "old tank syndrome". Denitrification somewhat reverses this process, creating the carbonate lost from nitrification.

Plants could help a little too, but they certainly won't hurt.

At work our denitrifiers typically reduce the nitrate by 90% when it passes through the chamber.
 
Purigen wont remove nitrates already in the water
You're right, it won't. Good point to make, but I was looking at it from another angle.


If a person starts with a tank that has 60 ppm nitrates when he does a 50% WC (with 80 ppm water), he will end up at 70 ppm.

Instead, if a person has a tank with 10 ppm nitrates to begin (perhaps from plants and purigen) when he does a 50% WC (with 80 ppm water), he will end up at 45 ppm.

Starting at 45 ppm versus 70 ppm, it's far easier to get the tank down to 10 ppm.

So purigen will be a tool to keep average nitrate levels as low as possible by dealing with the additions to nitrates that are created in the tank.

Of course, there is limited evidence that many species that are adults suffer from nitrate damage at below 100 ppm. It's certainly a factor for some species, especially for eggs and fry. And no one should neglect keeping nitrates as low as possible as there's some evidence it has negative non lethal effects especially over a long term.

My druthers would be to keep fewer fish and more plants.
 
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Yes, their is a thread here called.
Contained carbon dosing.

It is my on going fresh water denitrator. A bit long, get some pop corn.
 
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Wouldnt it be better for th e op do do a home nitrate removal filter ? Asking because i may need one down the road
 
A biological denitrator, can be built very simply and economical. It costs me a 9 volt battery once every 6 months, and 1 cup of sugar will last over a month.
 
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