Hikari Massivore Pellets.... made for Monsters :)

[ultimatejay]

jay... i hope you dont feed your fish dog food....

For me i want the convenience and what is best for my fish... and of course try something new...

althou hikari is a bit expensive but you cant compare that to dog food? with that thinking wouldn't hikari, NFS and other gone out of biz by now...

2 pound of shrimp = 2 pounds of pellets? you forgot the % of water in the shrimp... wonder how much 2 pound of "Freeze Dried Shrimp" will run? lets not forget the vitamins and nutrients in these pellets...

example on jehmco.com

Frozen Krill, (sp. E. superba), 2 kilo. (~4.4 LBS.) $20
Freeze Dried Krill 2 kgs (4.4 LBS) (not screened) $90

i do have 5 gallon bucket worth farm trout pellets... they are extremely cheap but i dont think they are suitable for home use... not only they cloud up the water.. they make your water oily also....

but it still up to the fishkeeper... to feed what he/she think what is good for the fish...

Li, I think you missed my point. I know they are great pellets and have a high nutritional value. I am just saying that I think they are way overpriced for what they are. I bet it cost them no more than 5 bucks to make one of those bags. I bought the one 13oz bag for 25 bucks. My fish went through it within two weeks and that was feeding very sparingly. So you see how much it would cost to only feed this pellet to my fish for a month. I think Hikari could price it down alot. Why is this pellet so much more expensive than the other Hikari pellets of the same size bags? Basically it's the same ingredients.

 

[prophets]

From what it is, it seems to be exactly the same as the regular carnivore pellets, with the exception of the size of the pellets. I guess with the surgence of more hobbyists keeping "Monster/Massive" sized fishes, Hikari got the brilliant idea of making the reg. carnivore pellets bigger and market it as "Massivore". Great marketing ploy if you ask me.

But to that, its all up to the hobbyist, whether he/she chooses to shell out the money for the massivore or not.

I'd say give it a bit of time and the price should drop down a bit.

 

[johnptc]

last look hikari micro pellets were $60 FOR 2.2 LBS..... SINKING PELLETS ARE ABOUT $37/KG

Li, I think you missed my point. I know they are great pellets and have a high nutritional value. I am just saying that I think they are way overpriced for what they are. I bet it cost them no more than 5 bucks to make one of those bags. I bought the one 13oz bag for 25 bucks. My fish went through it within two weeks and that was feeding very sparingly. So you see how much it would cost to only feed this pellet to my fish for a month. I think Hikari could price it down alot. Why is this pellet so much more expensive than the other Hikari pellets of the same size bags? Basically it's the same ingredients.

 

[neoprodigy]

Li, I think you missed my point. I know they are great pellets and have a high nutritional value. I am just saying that I think they are way overpriced for what they are. I bet it cost them no more than 5 bucks to make one of those bags. I bought the one 13oz bag for 25 bucks. My fish went through it within two weeks and that was feeding very sparingly. So you see how much it would cost to only feed this pellet to my fish for a month. I think Hikari could price it down alot. Why is this pellet so much more expensive than the other Hikari pellets of the same size bags? Basically it's the same ingredients.

most of the content are similar... but some of the cheaper pellets has flaked corn and rice bran... that can use as filler in a pellet...

and you can check out the vitamins addictives... where cheaper pellets are low in vitamins also

Cichlid Staple - $10.50 / 2.2lbs

Vitamin A - 8,300 IU/kg
Vitamin C - 76 mg/kg
Vitamin D3 - 1,600 IU/kg
Vitamin E - 130 mg/kg
Copper - 6.3 mg/kg


Cichlid Bio-Gold® Plus $32/2.2lb
Vitamin A - 26,000 IU/kg
Vitamin C - 140 mg/kg
Vitamin D3 - 5,300 IU/kg
Vitamin E - 900 mg/kg


Food Sticks™ $42.99/2.2lbs
Vitamin A - 44,000 IU/kg
Vitamin C - 170 mg/kg
Vitamin D3 - 8,800 IU/kg
Vitamin E - 550 mg/kg
Copper - 18 mg/kg


Massivore Delite™ + Sinking Carnivore Pellets™ 54.99/2.2 lb
Vitamin A - 48,000 IU/kg
Vitamin C - 180 mg/kg
Vitamin D3 - 9,600 IU/kg
Vitamin E - 1,100 mg/kg
Copper - 16 mg/kg

 

[neoprodigy]

From what it is, it seems to be exactly the same as the regular carnivore pellets, with the exception of the size of the pellets. I guess with the surgence of more hobbyists keeping "Monster/Massive" sized fishes, Hikari got the brilliant idea of making the reg. carnivore pellets bigger and market it as "Massivore". Great marketing ploy if you ask me.

But to that, its all up to the hobbyist, whether he/she chooses to shell out the money for the massivore or not.

I'd say give it a bit of time and the price should drop down a bit.

carnivores and massivores have similar.... not exact the same ingredients.. also hikari massivores is abit cheaper than the sinking carnivores ...

massivores (ebay) $56 shipped
sinking carnivore (dfs) $64 shipped

 

[ultimatejay]

most of the content are similar... but some of the cheaper pellets has flaked corn and rice bran... that can use as filler in a pellet...

and you can check out the vitamins addictives... where cheaper pellets are low in vitamins also

Cichlid Staple - $10.50 / 2.2lbs

Vitamin A - 8,300 IU/kg
Vitamin C - 76 mg/kg
Vitamin D3 - 1,600 IU/kg
Vitamin E - 130 mg/kg
Copper - 6.3 mg/kg


Cichlid Bio-Gold® Plus $32/2.2lb
Vitamin A - 26,000 IU/kg
Vitamin C - 140 mg/kg
Vitamin D3 - 5,300 IU/kg
Vitamin E - 900 mg/kg


Food Sticks™ $42.99/2.2lbs
Vitamin A - 44,000 IU/kg
Vitamin C - 170 mg/kg
Vitamin D3 - 8,800 IU/kg
Vitamin E - 550 mg/kg
Copper - 18 mg/kg


Massivore Delite™ + Sinking Carnivore Pellets™ 54.99/2.2 lb
Vitamin A - 48,000 IU/kg
Vitamin C - 180 mg/kg
Vitamin D3 - 9,600 IU/kg
Vitamin E - 1,100 mg/kg
Copper - 16 mg/kg

This is good info Li, thanks for posting. I still say the price is way to high for a little extra vitamins though. Besides fish in the aquaria don't need as much protein and vitamins as they would in the wild because they swim alot less and exert alot less energy. Feeding them a very high protein based pellet or diet will make them obese and unhealthy. That's why I feed these pellets every three days or so sparingly. No doubt about it, it's a very good product, just way to expensive for the average fishkeeper though IMO.

 

[cookiemonster]

Regardless of price, I picked up a bag and my oscar loves 'em.

 

[Nic]

new product coming soon i went to that fish place today and spoke to the sales rep for hikari and monstervore should be out in a year pellets are too be alot bigger than the massivore ones just a heads up

 

[neoprodigy]

This is good info Li, thanks for posting. I still say the price is way to high for a little extra vitamins though. Besides fish in the aquaria don't need as much protein and vitamins as they would in the wild because they swim alot less and exert alot less energy. Feeding them a very high protein based pellet or diet will make them obese and unhealthy. That's why I feed these pellets every three days or so sparingly. No doubt about it, it's a very good product, just way to expensive for the average fishkeeper though IMO.

no problem... yes i agree with you on the pricing.. is abit high but... sometimes we are suckers for thing that is worth more... think its a better priduct...

 

[neoprodigy]

just got back from ThatFishPlace meet... there was a hikari rep there also... and i score 10 bag of 13.4oz for 13.99 each