HOB media

[Bderick67]

I am glad you had a big laugh.

I see that you quoted me in order to direct your comments to me. So why
would you not think I was doing the same?

I found in comical that someone would suggest that biomedia could become dirty therefore reducing it's effectiveness to consumer ammonia. Yet some how it would then increase the amount of nitrates it is producing.

I guess a basic understanding of the nitrogen cycle is required in order to find this humorous.

 

[barbarossa4122]

I see that you quoted me in order to direct your comments to me. So why
would you not think I was doing the same?

I found in comical that someone would suggest that biomedia could become dirty therefore reducing it's effectiveness to consumer ammonia. Yet some how it would then increase the amount of nitrates it is producing.

I guess a basic understanding of the nitrogen cycle is required in order to find this humorous.

It looks that I misunderstood your post. I am sorry

 

[KaiserSousay]

Yet some how it would then increase the amount of nitrates it is producing.


I’ll just assume you are having an off day and you didn’t think things through before posting.
It happens.
More to some than others.
The nitrate rich food and waste trapped in “bio” media spewing out into a tank from the spillway of a poorly configured HOB is in fact adding to the nitrate levels in the tank.
And yes, the “bio” media would clog, choking out any beneficial bacteria, to the point it will not handle the ammonia either.

 

[Bderick67]

Okay, nitrtae rich food? What are you feeding your fish, Ortho lawn fertilizer?

 

[barbarossa4122]

you should put a prefilter on it or it will need A TON of washing. thats not a bad thing its just more work (ps. make sure you wash it in tank water, like water you take out for a WC)

Will do. Thanks.

 

[tcarswell]

Yet some how it would then increase the amount of nitrates it is producing.


I’ll just assume you are having an off day and you didn’t think things through before posting.
It happens.
More to some than others.
The nitrate rich food and waste trapped in “bio” media spewing out into a tank from the spillway of a poorly configured HOB is in fact adding to the nitrate levels in the tank.
And yes, the “bio” media would clog, choking out any beneficial bacteria, to the point it will not handle the ammonia either.

x2 any food really or waste that is trapped in the highly porous media not only reduces its effectiveness but works as a bit of a tough to thoroughly clean mechanical media instead of its intended use.

To sum it up prefilter your water before it clogs your bio media this is 101.

to the OP this was not directed at you in any rude fashion in fact I was trying to kind of push the logic through to Brian. (though im sure he understands it already :/)

 

[Bderick67]

x2 any food really or waste that is trapped in the highly porous media not only reduces its effectiveness but works as a bit of a tough to thoroughly clean mechanical media instead of its intended use.

To sum it up prefilter your water before it clogs your bio media this is 101.

to the OP this was not directed at you in any rude fashion in fact I was trying to kind of push the logic through to Brian. (though im sure he understands it already :/)

You want to push logic, show me how nitrates are produced without ammonia being consumed. Or I'll even take a link showing information regarding fish foods that are high in nitrates. Otherwise let me have my laugh

 

[tcarswell]

You want to push logic, show me how nitrates are produced without ammonia being consumed. Or I'll even take a link showing information regarding fish foods that are high in nitrates. Otherwise let me have my laugh

This kind of goes back to the surface area discussion. Its my opinion that any food/waste creating ammonia on the bio media would be consumed by beneficial bacteria on tank surfaces or other media/filters. Creating a high surface area for gunk to hide (and ammonia to be produced). Like I said this is 101 Brian.

Have your laugh though by all means. Nothing cracks me up like a guy your age getting his laughs from inexperienced folks on forums who are trying to learn.

 

[Bderick67]

This kind of goes back to the surface area discussion. Its my opinion that any food/waste creating ammonia on the bio media would be consumed by beneficial bacteria on tank surfaces or other media/filters. Creating a high surface area for gunk to hide (and ammonia to be produced). Like I said this is 101 Brian.

Have your laugh though by all means. Nothing cracks me up like a guy your age getting his laughs from inexperienced folks on forums who are trying to learn.

So basically you can't provide info that does not exist. Have you even read the entire thread? Does this below hi-lited in red make sense?

Unless you put a filtering media on the intake, be prepaired to do a bunch of cleaning or that "bio" media will be so full of gunk that it would add more nitrate than remove ammonia.

How is the bio media going to produce more nitrate then consume ammonia?

 

[tcarswell]

So basically you can't provide info that does not exist. Have you even read the entire thread? Does this below hi-lited in red make sense?



How is the bio media going to produce more nitrate then consume ammonia?

Maybe you should try reading for christ sake....

The ammonia would be produced from the waste accumulation. Then processed by areas that harbor beneficial bacteria well. If it doesn't make sense take it for what he meant instead of twisting words to try to laugh at people. Bio media is not the only place that colonizes BB


How is that politics career coming along btw ?