Thanks a lot man. I had to move him to my brothers house because I was wanting to focus on my growouts. While doing so my brother slacked with his care and that's where I believe it all started. I have been one to stress over water changes so I wouldn't have to medicate any sick fish. But I will try anything to help my fish out. If I am to put any medication within his waters what would you suggest?
hole in the head???
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To treat him properly you would need to quarenteen him into his own tank..you do not want to treat the others and it is costly to treat a larger tank.. I tried lots of things - metronidazole was the only thing that half worked. He still had a hole though - lived with it for about 5 years more... but it never got any bigger.
I would just read the directions on the bottle or box and administer the right dosage to the hospital tank according to how big the tank is.. and use the same water from mother tank along with keeping up with water changes before you dose with medicine.... when finished medicating him after so many doses according to directions.. you can put him back in main tank and hope for the best..there is alot of info here on MFK forums on hole in the head.. try to read all the information.. good luck to you Here is one sticky with info.. there are a couple there to read about HITH info http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/f...ting-Hexamita-aka-Spironucleus&highlight=HITH and another http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/f...-IN-THE-HEAD-THIAMINASE-What-you-need-to-know!!!!!!
Yes, and no.
HITH can be triggered from any number of stress related factors, but the actual "holes" are created from Spironucleus vortens, after this internal parasite becomes systemic. This protozoa is also known to be passed & transmitted to healthy fish via infected fish feces. Some species of fish seem to be clearly more affected by this protozoa, than others. In African cichlids it typically results in what's commonly referred to as bloat. In SA/CA species one generally sees it result in HITH.
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?486147-Hoga-With-HITH
Follow the info in the link above and your fish has a pretty good chance of recovering.
HTH
Thanks a lot for all the info! I have him in a 33 corner tank with a lot of current for the time being. I will look through those threads. Thanks again!
I don't think it can speard to other fish but I wanted to ask u that my Oscar hes approximately 8-9 inches. He has this white and dark black patch on his head it doesn't look like a hole but Im curious is it HITH
HITH doesnt take the form of white or dark patches. It literally is pitting that forms small craters in the surface of the fish's body. Can you post pics of what your fish has? Typically white spots are bacterial or fungal infections. Check the stickys in the aquaria disease section for quick info. Other than that post pics and tell us the parameters/ history of your tank
HITH comes from long term exposure to bad water, no it does not jump from fish to fish, just the exposure can effect all cichlids around the same time. so any ways, back to the beginning HITH is caused by long term exposure to bad water quality over time, the cure is the opposite, long term exposure to pristine water, feed a good diet and do not over feed as that effects water quality. I would also keep a melafix and pimafix regime going on, not going to help HITH but will help prevent any secondary infection. long time heal, months, and will always be susceptible to it again.
I personally find most of this to be a turd sandwich, but gleam what you will.
In some eukaryotes, mitochondria have become modified during evolution to yield derived organelles (MDOs) of a similar size (hydrogenosomes), or extremely reduced to produce tiny cellular vesicles (mitosomes). The current study provides evidence for the presence of MDOs in the highly infectious fish pathogen Spironucleus vortens, an organism that produces H₂ and is shown here to have no detectable cytochromes. Transmission electron microscopy (TEM) reveals that S. vortens trophozoites contain electron-dense, membranous structures sometimes with an electron-dense core (200 nm-1 μm), resembling the hydrogenosomes previously described in other protists from habitats deficient in O₂. Confocal microscopy establishes that these organelles exhibit autofluorescence emission spectra similar to flavoprotein constituents previously described for mitochondria and also present in hydrogenosomes. These organelles possess a membrane potential and are labelled by a fluorescently labeled antibody against Fe-hydrogenase from Blastocystis hominis. Heterologous antibodies raised to mitochondrial proteins frataxin and Isu1, also exhibit a discrete punctate pattern of localization in S. vortens; however these labelled structures are distinctly smaller (90-150 nm) than hydrogenosomes as observed previously in other organisms. TEM confirms the presence of double-membrane bounded organelles of this smaller size. In addition, strong background immunostaining occurs in the cytosol for frataxin and Isu1, and labelling by anti-ferredoxin antibody is generally distributed and not specifically localized except for at the anterior polar region. This suggests that some of the functions traditionally attributed to such MDOs may also occur elsewhere. The specialized parasitic life-style of S. vortens may necessitate more complex intracellular compartmentation of redox reactions than previously recognized. Control of infection requires biochemical characterization of redox-related organelles.
Copyright © 2013 Elsevier Inc. All rights reserved.
[h=4]KEYWORDS:[/h]Flavoprotein, Frataxin, Hydrogenase, Hydrogenosomes, Isu1, MDO, Mitosomes, PBS, TEM, T
In some eukaryotes, mitochondria have become modified during evolution to yield derived organelles (MDOs) of a similar size (hydrogenosomes), or extremely reduced to produce tiny cellular vesicles (mitosomes). The current study provides evidence for the presence of MDOs in the highly infectious fish pathogen Spironucleus vortens, an organism that produces H₂ and is shown here to have no detectable cytochromes. Transmission electron microscopy (TEM) reveals that S. vortens trophozoites contain electron-dense, membranous structures sometimes with an electron-dense core (200 nm-1 μm), resembling the hydrogenosomes previously described in other protists from habitats deficient in O₂. Confocal microscopy establishes that these organelles exhibit autofluorescence emission spectra similar to flavoprotein constituents previously described for mitochondria and also present in hydrogenosomes. These organelles possess a membrane potential and are labelled by a fluorescently labeled antibody against Fe-hydrogenase from Blastocystis hominis. Heterologous antibodies raised to mitochondrial proteins frataxin and Isu1, also exhibit a discrete punctate pattern of localization in S. vortens; however these labelled structures are distinctly smaller (90-150 nm) than hydrogenosomes as observed previously in other organisms. TEM confirms the presence of double-membrane bounded organelles of this smaller size. In addition, strong background immunostaining occurs in the cytosol for frataxin and Isu1, and labelling by anti-ferredoxin antibody is generally distributed and not specifically localized except for at the anterior polar region. This suggests that some of the functions traditionally attributed to such MDOs may also occur elsewhere. The specialized parasitic life-style of S. vortens may necessitate more complex intracellular compartmentation of redox reactions than previously recognized. Control of infection requires biochemical characterization of redox-related organelles.
Copyright © 2013 Elsevier Inc. All rights reserved.
[h=4]KEYWORDS:[/h]Flavoprotein, Frataxin, Hydrogenase, Hydrogenosomes, Isu1, MDO, Mitosomes, PBS, TEM, T
I used to feed him him optimum it's a a colour enhancer. It's a Chinese brand. But I discovered it doesn't have any vitamins in it. He has a little bit of lateral line erosion but that only happens in severe cases of HITH right?. I can also see that his fins are a damaged. My tank mates are two more oscars,four parrots,three sun catfish, one Indian catfish,two green terrors, two flowerhorns and one pacu piranh. I think the pacu is the fin nipper should I return it?. Anyway thanks I'll just post the pictures in a while
