Hooks in WC rays

[armac]

all hooks will eventually dissolve. but will he eat before it happens.....

pretty confident answer, you keep a lot of rays with hooks in their gut?

 

[Mrs. Kitty]

Thanks everyone for all the encouragement. All we can do now is just hope and pray she pulls through! She is so beautiful, it would be such a shame to lose her. Any more thoughts or ideas are much appreciated. We are all out of ideas.

 

[PennReels84]

no im a fisherman.

 

[FishDog]

Here is a pic of her from about a week ago.

 

[basslover34]

no im a fisherman.

Then you have access to a couple of extra hooks to do a example thread with, all you'll need is a glass and some water with a hook... lets see how long it takes to disolve,

I've fished my whole life and I've found my old snaged lines years later with the hooks still holding strong just the line looks like crap.

The cheap hooks that are used to catch these guys are small gauge wire hooks... the wire isn't going to simply disolve as with Most metals it will break down over long periods of time if there is enough O2 to help break it down ( which is why old steel ships that sunk Long ago are rusted but not entirly gone from the bottom of the river/lake/ocean that they sunk in)

 

[armac]

no im a fisherman.

So you know that all the gut hooked fish you release live?

I fish too, alot in Mexico, catch huge bass, the gut hooked ones that release may die, I have no way of knowing.

 

[armac]

Then you have access to a couple of extra hooks to do a example thread with, all you'll need is a glass and some water with a hook... lets see how long it takes to disolve,

I've fished my whole life and I've found my old snaged lines years later with the hooks still holding strong just the line looks like crap.

The cheap hooks that are used to catch these guys are small gauge wire hooks... the wire isn't going to simply disolve as with Most metals it will break down over long periods of time if there is enough O2 to help break it down ( which is why old steel ships that sunk Long ago are rusted but not entirly gone from the bottom of the river/lake/ocean that they sunk in)

According to this thread.......http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=220945

They are using "nickelplated (very long lasting) small hooks at the end of a night fishing gear"

Which sounds like a longer lasting hook, plus if you add in they are are most likely fishing trot lines or bushhooks, that set out overnight, this allows the ray to swallow the hook entirely. Not like pole fish where you set the hook.

All in all in sounds rough on the rays, I am surprised as many survive as they do.

 

[basslover34]

According to this thread.......http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=220945

They are using "nickelplated (very long lasting) small hooks at the end of a night fishing gear"

Which sounds like a longer lasting hook, plus if you add in they are are most likely fishing trot lines or bushhooks, that set out overnight, this allows the ray to swallow the hook entirely. Not like pole fish where you set the hook.

All in all in sounds rough on the rays, I am surprised as many survive as they do.

Not all the fisherman have access to "quality" hooks and most will get by with what they can afford, which is cheap.

 

[PennReels84]

yes they are long lasting.... but u dont keep ur hook in the water 24/7 365 as if it where in a fish!!! the salt and acids of the stomach dissolve that hook alot quicker. so me putting a "hook in a glass of water" wont prove a thing

and they are not using large gauged hooks for those small rays!

 

[armac]

Not all the fisherman have access to "quality" hooks and most will get by with what they can afford, which is cheap.

So you are just generalizing, without any firsthand knowledge, making an assumption.


Ok, I understand now.