How are we supposed to make responsible purchases...
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If you were unhappy why didnt you return them you knew were the guy lived you picked them up
im sorry no matter how sleepy i was i would look the rays over properly before taking them and paying
if you didnt know much about black rays you shouldnt be buying them
as for the fish all ready in the polybox when you go to pick them up you are good at that trick yourself if i remember rightly
lol IF I REMEMBER RIGHTLY!!!! you asked me to polly box them before you got here to collect the tigerfish as ya cant #####g see!!!! and you were worried about having to drive back in the dark!!! as you go blind at night is this not correct????
oh and i wasnt gonna waste another 80 quid of my cash taking the ######g things back to him was i lost money before i even got them home in my book
and like i said NOT into black rays think they are quite bland to be fair!! just wanted 1 pair for fun and to possibly use on future hybrid projects
I have been on both sides. One where I ordered rays and did not receive what I ordered (ray was wrong sex - this was an experienced breeder / exporter and knew what he was doing). The vendor promised to make it right and offered me a "deal" on an additional ray as an apology and then screwed me around on that ray too (didn't send what I paid for and sent a lower quality ray). I see the point of not leaving negative feedback in hopes / trust that the vendor will come good on his dealings. Afterwards I found out I was not the only one that had poor dealings with that vendor and could have saved a lot of time, money, and grief had I known. I tell others who ask me about my experience with that vendor.
On the other side, I joined a different forum and after a while posted some fish for sale. Another member posted a reply that I was a scam artist and sent him a dead arowana that was not even the one he ordered and derailed my thread ( I've never sold an arowana in my life). He had mixed me up with another member that had a similar name as mine who had been banned. Instead of Sending me a PM first to ask who I was, he discredited me " in the sake of warning others". After he realized his mistake, he posted a reply apology.
There is valid points on both sides. Most member on this site know other members and you can PM them to ask for recommendations /advice if you suspect something. This doesn't usually help new members who are just getting in the hobby and don't have connections. They are usually the people getting burned.
I don't see a problem with someone asking advice or feedback regarding a vendor or member on this forum when it comes to wanting to purchase a ray. The reputable members will clearly be evident and the unreliable ones will be flushed out. One off incidents sometimes happen, but when you see repeated negative comments that should be a warning sign.
On the other side, I joined a different forum and after a while posted some fish for sale. Another member posted a reply that I was a scam artist and sent him a dead arowana that was not even the one he ordered and derailed my thread ( I've never sold an arowana in my life). He had mixed me up with another member that had a similar name as mine who had been banned. Instead of Sending me a PM first to ask who I was, he discredited me " in the sake of warning others". After he realized his mistake, he posted a reply apology.
There is valid points on both sides. Most member on this site know other members and you can PM them to ask for recommendations /advice if you suspect something. This doesn't usually help new members who are just getting in the hobby and don't have connections. They are usually the people getting burned.
I don't see a problem with someone asking advice or feedback regarding a vendor or member on this forum when it comes to wanting to purchase a ray. The reputable members will clearly be evident and the unreliable ones will be flushed out. One off incidents sometimes happen, but when you see repeated negative comments that should be a warning sign.
lol IF I REMEMBER RIGHTLY!!!! you asked me to polly box them before you got here to collect the tigerfish as ya cant #####g see!!!! and you were worried about having to drive back in the dark!!! as you go blind at night is this not correct????
oh and i wasnt gonna waste another 80 quid of my cash taking the ######g things back to him was i lost money before i even got them home in my book
and like i said NOT into black rays think they are quite bland to be fair!! just wanted 1 pair for fun and to possibly use on future hybrid projects
Hahahaha!!
Your a popular guy on MFK!!!
#1 S. Vettel
lol IF I REMEMBER RIGHTLY!!!! you asked me to polly box them before you got here to collect the tigerfish as ya cant #####g see!!!! and you were worried about having to drive back in the dark!!! as you go blind at night is this not correct????
oh and i wasnt gonna waste another 80 quid of my cash taking the ######g things back to him was i lost money before i even got them home in my book
and like i said NOT into black rays think they are quite bland to be fair!! just wanted 1 pair for fun and to possibly use on future hybrid projects
You seem to like black rays enough to steal someone else's pic and use it as your avatar.
You seem to like black rays enough to steal someone else's pic and use it as your avatar.
COME ON A GROWN AS* ME ARGUING ABOUT AN ONLINE AVATAR PIC??? ARE U SERIOUS!!
HOLY CRAP PEOPLE THERES MORE TO LIFE THEN UR CPU AND RAYS
#1 S. Vettel
COME ON A GROWN AS* ME ARGUING ABOUT AN ONLINE AVATAR PIC??? ARE U SERIOUS!!
HOLY CRAP PEOPLE THERES MORE TO LIFE THEN UR CPU AND RAYS
#1 S. Vettel
Another class act...
I was simply pointing out the hypocritical postings of this jokester.
Another class act...
I was simply pointing out the hypocritical postings of this jokester.
Another class act...
I was simply pointing out the hypocritical postings of this jokester.
Im simply pointing out ur motivation to keep slamming someone. I understand ur pov but come on just be done w/ this thread. And yes i am a class act btw, and i surely dont consider someone an adult who slams someones avatar! Its a FORUM
This guy has always been nice to me so i cannot back up your horrible preception of him, what has he done to you? Seems like you get off mis judging people, you dont know me and i dont know you but i can certainly say your maturity is NOT on a adult level by any means and your ignorance proves it.
Just a grummpy old man or a serious mid life crisis.......
#1 S. Vettel
I have been on both sides. One where I ordered rays and did not receive what I ordered (ray was wrong sex - this was an experienced breeder / exporter and knew what he was doing). The vendor promised to make it right and offered me a "deal" on an additional ray as an apology and then screwed me around on that ray too (didn't send what I paid for and sent a lower quality ray). I see the point of not leaving negative feedback in hopes / trust that the vendor will come good on his dealings. Afterwards I found out I was not the only one that had poor dealings with that vendor and could have saved a lot of time, money, and grief had I known. I tell others who ask me about my experience with that vendor.
On the other side, I joined a different forum and after a while posted some fish for sale. Another member posted a reply that I was a scam artist and sent him a dead arowana that was not even the one he ordered and derailed my thread ( I've never sold an arowana in my life). He had mixed me up with another member that had a similar name as mine who had been banned. Instead of Sending me a PM first to ask who I was, he discredited me " in the sake of warning others". After he realized his mistake, he posted a reply apology.
There is valid points on both sides. Most member on this site know other members and you can PM them to ask for recommendations /advice if you suspect something. This doesn't usually help new members who are just getting in the hobby and don't have connections. They are usually the people getting burned.
I don't see a problem with someone asking advice or feedback regarding a vendor or member on this forum when it comes to wanting to purchase a ray. The reputable members will clearly be evident and the unreliable ones will be flushed out. One off incidents sometimes happen, but when you see repeated negative comments that should be a warning sign.
I have to take credit where credit is due (LOL) for redirecting the "mad Arowana dude!" Once I read what he put in your sale post I knew exactly what member he was talking about as I bought my first classic leos off this same guy. I told him it wasn't you and I even went as far to give him the members name that was similar to yours and where he lived.
The point I am making is the fellow hobbyist should always be looking out for other fellow hobbyists and by doing this it will help out everyone in the end. It could be warning about a scam,bad fish stock or just mistaken identity like what happened to you!
lol IF I REMEMBER RIGHTLY!!!! you asked me to polly box them before you got here to collect the tigerfish as ya cant #####g see!!!! and you were worried about having to drive back in the dark!!! as you go blind at night is this not correct????
oh and i wasnt gonna waste another 80 quid of my cash taking the ######g things back to him was i lost money before i even got them home in my book
BAN!
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