How do YOU decide if a tank if fully stocked?

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I personally dont believe in that tank size per fish, waste of space IMO...

Normally I got by my Nitrates, 20-30ppm a week is good a lot more then that a week then you are over stocked IMO...
 
BushFishRox;1800020; said:
I personally dont believe in that tank size per fish, waste of space IMO...

Normally I got by my Nitrates, 20-30ppm a week is good a lot more then that a week then you are over stocked IMO...

What do you mean? Like inches per gallon? Or that certain fish need a certain amount of water?

I guess I base it on the max size of the fish and compatibility. My fish are still small though, so water changes are pretty easy.
 
Over all adult size & # of fish vs size of tank, if they aren't overly crowded and can swim and turn around comfortably then it's not overstocked. You can over stock a tank in terms of # of fish in it and all will be healthy and water will be clear as glass if you have good tank husbandry as many here prove,
The main thing for me would be size, if the fish cant turn around without trying to be a gymnast or bumping it to other fish as theses not enough room to get by then it's over stocked.
 
James B.;1800128; said:
Over all adult size & # of fish vs size of tank, if they aren't overly crowded and can swim and turn around comfortably then it's not overstocked. You can over stock a tank in terms of # of fish in it and all will be healthy and water will be clear as glass if you have good tank husbandry as many here prove,
The main thing for me would be size, if the fish cant turn around without trying to be a gymnast or bumping it to other fish as theses not enough room to get by then it's over stocked.

Even if the fish can turn around, it should at least have some space to move front to back. Thats why I will probably never own a 55, at least not for cichlids.
 
FSM;1800154; said:
Even if the fish can turn around, it should at least have some space to move front to back. Thats why I will probably never own a 55, at least not for cichlids.
Thats why I said "can swim and turn around comfortably" and you just have to do smaller Cichlids in a 55, my pair of Cons have no problems in my 55. If your talking Oscars and Jags and the like of course they wont be comfortable once they hit a certain size, thats just common sense is it not?
 
Overstocking is just a matter of opinion.
 
I don't think there is a set rule, just guide lines. I have tanks that are "overstocked" (only made possible by heavy planting) and understocked (what else do you put in with a GSP?).

I never let my nitrates get above 10ppm, if they are higher then it is not anywhere close to most (I said most!) fishes natural habitats. Fish are already dealing with the presence of ammonia (even though our tests don't read it, it's there in minute amounts... again, not usually found in nature) and just because a fish can live in it, doesn't mean that's what is right. These unplanted "monster" tanks get up to 40-50ppm weekly... and you house doesn't need to be cleaned every week does it? But you still do.

There is a more complex biosystem in nature than can be found in the home aquarium, that's not really an opinion; this is the reason why we need to underestimate ourselves. The best book I have found to date on this was written in 1962 (rev. 1981) by Dr. Herbert Axelrod and a few other scientists called simply "Exotic Tropical Fishes". There is a lot of outdated information and icthyology, but these are scientists that were dealing with inferior technology. If we apply today's technology to their guidelines, we can do a better job of what we got into this hobby to do (hopefully): give our pets the best life, home, and environment we can.

.02 at most
 
For me, a tank is overstocked when the fish are struggling to move freely (bumping into each other, having to avoid each other) not so much when they're too big to turn around, that's just undersized tank.

ATM, i'm comitting the ultimate sin as i set up my monster tank, as i am both overstocked AND undersized and i hate seeing my fish trying to get past each other at times (like when the perruno comes out and just rams everything out its' way)
 
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