How Do You Guys Feel About Animal Experimentation

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ballinouttacntrol said:
I still don't see why I can't prefer these were tested on humans. The question should he would you refuse these advances had they been tested on humans instead


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Hello; From my point of view you can "prefer" human testing. Am I correct in thinking that you "prefer" human testing over animal testing?

If the "good science" issue can be fixed then the moral question of human testing remains. At some stages there are human tests of many things including medicine and cosmetics. I suppose these human test subjects are volunteers now days.

People have been used in testing and experiments against there will in the past. In at least one case without their knowledge. I am thinking of such things done during WWII and later in the USA. As far as I know the knowledge gained from such testing and experimentation has been added to the general knowledge base and not rejected.

To me it is not that I think new knowledge could not be gained from involuntary human testing. I guess it could. I am against involuntary human testing however at this point in my life.
 
Nice catch on the spelling error.

Yeah that's exactly what I'm saying though. I'm talking volunteers and prisoners sentence to death. I'm not buying "some people can really be innocent" because in today's society it's very difficult to draw the death penalty without solid evidence linking you to the crime. They're more likely to give you life in prison then the death penalty without DNA or solid forensic proof.


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Eddie, the experiment as he described it is while kept under sedation, the large dogs's chest was opened, then the pace makers were installed in the heart, then blood flow of the major vessels were monitored for a long time. Then the dogs were euthanized. You want to do that on people?


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As a member of the veterinary field & seeing some of it first hand - I'd prefer to test on prisoners. My animals are treated better than I am, I do not use any products that are tested on animals & encourage my family & friends to do the same.
 
And to add to that - yes many medications were originally tested on animals. But in this day & age, this isn't necessary. It's a barbaric method that is cheaper than other scientific alternatives.
 
ecoli73 said:
Eddie, the experiment as he described it is while kept under sedation, the large dogs's chest was opened, then the pace makers were installed in the heart, then blood flow of the major vessels were monitored for a long time. Then the dogs were euthanized. You want to do that on people?


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That are about to be fried or lethally injected? Yes I do. What do we not understand about death row? Maybe people will think twice before they commit a crime now eh?


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Eclipse390 said:
And to add to that - yes many medications were originally tested on animals. But in this day & age, this isn't necessary. It's a barbaric method that is cheaper than other scientific alternatives.
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Name those other scientific alternatives for me.
 
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