How has the coronavirus affected your personal life?

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pacu mom said:
( My observation is that people who don't wear masks usually aren't vaccinated.) Spouse also drove with his son to get take out food. A week later, his son was sick with a "head cold". Who gets colds this time of the year?
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Hello; Well I am a two shotter and do not wear a mask any more. I do not know the story of a lot of people but nearly all I know who have the shots do not wear a mask anymore.

As far as summer respiratory illness this time of year goes, there is a respiratory virus going around my area. Knew one family who had it. They were tested for covid and flu to be sure. I do not recall the name of the virus but it did make the Knoxville news. Some three or four letter name.

The weather does not give people colds. It is a corona family virus and can infect any time of the year. We tend to get more colds in the winter due to two main things. One is low humidity of the air. Sinus mucosa can dry out and be less protective is my understanding. The other thing is we tend to be closed up inside in the cold weather much more. I have had a few summer colds, but very few.
 
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Hello; Well I am a two shotter and do not wear a mask any more. I do not know the story of a lot of people but nearly all I know who have the shots do not wear a mask anymore.
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With break through infections pretty common, you might reconsider mask wearing again. When vaccinated people get COVID-19, their viral load can be just as heavy as an unvaccinated sick person. The difference between the two, is that the vaccinated person usually (but not always) doesn't end up in the hospital or dying from COVID-19. About 10% of COVID-19 cases in the hospital are vaccinated compared with the 90% who are not vaccinated.

There is also the threat of new variants like mu, which may have greater transmissibility and may have the ability to evade antibodies.
www.foxnews.com

COVID-19 variant mu detected in 49 states

The mu coronavirus variant has been detected in 49 states and 42 countries, according to estimates, as health officials keep an eye on the strain to see if it emerges to become more dominant.
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RD. said:
Unfortunately with so many people in the world unvaccinated, the mutations will likely never end.

WHO says Covid will mutate like the flu and is likely here to stay (msn.com)
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Agree.
vaccinted people can be just as inundated with virus as the unvaccinated, being vaccinated doesn't kill virus outright, or prevent it from entering your body, it simply prevents it from infecting with a deadly incapacitating illness.
Although I got the polio vaccine in the late 1950s, polio wasn't exterminated until 1979, when finally, almost the entire population of the planet was vaccinated, giving it no one to infected spread, of mutate into (same with smallpox (Exterminatedin same year, 1979)..
Until the entire population of the world gets vaccinated, preventing spread, Covid will continue to cause chaos.
 
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Hello; I may have missed it at some point but my understanding has been there are not enough doses of vaccines yet made in total to give all people even one shot so far. Also that some countries rejected the idea to try for one shot for everyone before anyone got two shots. That even now in a few places some are going for a third shot while many in the world have not had the first.

My understanding is this virus and it's mutants are a world wide thing. That seems to indicate there will be many pockets of population where little or no vaccine is being given currently. In those pockets around the world the virus will mutate and my having a third shot does nothing to help that. So far I have had two shots which is two more than many around the world.

Back when the shots first started the idea of giving as many as possible one shot before anyone would get the second was around. That was brushed aside and in my country we went to a two shot regimen. I questioned the wisdom of that at the time.
I guess the thing that stood out the most to me back some months ago was when I started hearing that even those with natural immunity were being pushed to get the shots while there were still others without even the first shot.
I understand the argument that the shots give the naturally immune some additional benefit. I do not buy into this so much. Even if some additional help is gained they already have good enough immunity and those shots could have been a first for some one. (Note- I get there are immunocompromised folks who had to be in a hospital bed and I do not put those into the same category as those who survived the virus on their own.)

Anyway there now is starting to be evidence that natural immunity is indeed good and robust. This was expected to be the case based on how disease reactions have been understood for a long time before the new virus came along. Not a surprise to me.
Of course even those with natural immunity for one or a few strains of the virus will be at risk after some strain is mutated enough to not be recognized by the body. However that is the same for those with the shots. At some point the virus will likely mutate enough to be an entirely new player in the pandemic.

Of course I expect many to line up for a third or even a fourth shot. Some have already indicated the intent. I guess some of us are just lucky to live in the right areas and have the chance. I guess since my early notion it would be a better practice to get one shot into more people has been thrown away, that I can get on board with being selfish enough to have a third shot before many still have none. I have had two so what ever long term side effects are coming are already baked in. Not clear to me how a third shot for me has helped the overall pandemic exactly.
 
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Natural immunity from the initial 2 strains is not enough to combat the Delta strain. We've already had a local 33 year old survive the first/second strain easily and recover really fast (according to family members), and then die last month from Delta because of lack of immunization (eventually passed away 5 days after being admitted to the hospital). I'm sure there are going to be more cases of those initially sick in 2020 with naturally immunity to the early versions, becoming sick again from Delta or later strains. We're already seeing more cases of children getting COVID and hospitalized as they become more exposed.
 
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pacu mom said:
When vaccinated people get COVID-19, their viral load can be just as heavy as an unvaccinated sick person. The difference between the two, is that the vaccinated person usually (but not always) doesn't end up in the hospital or dying from COVID-19.
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That's the problem; the difference just isn't that huge. Even an unvaccinated person who becomes infected usually does not end up hospitalized and/or dying. This simple statistic has been shoved in my face so many times lately by so many people that I am resigning myself to the idea that the three S's of basic human nature, i.e, selfishness, stubbornness and stupidity, practically guarantee that Covid is here to stay.

"My odds of dying are miniscule; why should I wear a mask and/or get vaccinated? And if I get the shot, further decreasing my odds of a fatal infection...there's no way i will wear a mask after that point!"

That's the selfish logic I hear from co-workers on a daily basis when on the job. They blindly ignore the numbers that don't fit their chosen narrative...the inescapable math that says that a death rate of even 0.001% results in hundreds of thousands of deaths. They're more concerned about the injustice of vaccinated people being given slightly more freedom from restrictions than they have.

I just wish that for once at least some of them would edit their comments down to a more concise version that says what they actually mean: "I will probably be okay; screw everybody else."
 
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I think they’ll have to start putting something in peoples food.

KinderkovidX . . . Kicks the bugs outta yer kiddies!

Being old and retired, I self isolate a lot.
 
It's a moot point really, for good or bad the world simply does not work that way.
 
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