How long can a tigrinus survive in a bag

[dudefish82]

Thanks guys!!!

 

[moe214]

Hello; I use to do it that way but no longer.
I float the bag in the tank 20 minutes or longer if a bib bag to allow the temps to equalize.

After that time I let a small amount of the tank water into the bag. This is to start giving a taste of the tank water. I do this several times. I figure this should reduce possible shock due to water parameter differences.

I guess scooping them out with a net can work better with larger fish but with smaller fish I do it different. I place a net on the rim of a bucket and pour the bag water thru. catch the fish in the net and transfer to the tank.

I did both of what you guys say at one point. But I guess the ammonia is "activated" so to speak when the oxygen hits the water, never looked into it much. So now I float for 10 minutes get the temp similar than put a net over a bucket and pour the water in the netbcatches the fish and I put the fish in that way.

But I'd agree with kno4te on all points

 

[Just Toby]

Hello; I use to do it that way but no longer.
I float the bag in the tank 20 minutes or longer if a bib bag to allow the temps to equalize.

After that time I let a small amount of the tank water into the bag. This is to start giving a taste of the tank water. I do this several times. I figure this should reduce possible shock due to water parameter differences.

I guess scooping them out with a net can work better with larger fish but with smaller fish I do it different. I place a net on the rim of a bucket and pour the bag water thru. catch the fish in the net and transfer to the tank.

Totally agree with this on this sensitive fish, do not expect it to feed for a few weeks

 

[dudefish82]

Thanks guys would I be minimizing the risk after I buy it the next day after the shipment arrive?
Ive set my tank up with a high current goof filtration so hopefully everything goes smoothly..

 

[moe214]

Thanks guys would I be minimizing the risk after I buy it the next day after the shipment arrive?
Ive set my tank up with a high current goof filtration so hopefully everything goes smoothly..

Not necessarily, if I were you I'd say see if you can put a down payment and give the fish a week. Other wise the day is more to make sure it's alive and prove it's not your fault if it does die.

 

[dudefish82]

Not necessarily, if I were you I'd say see if you can put a down payment and give the fish a week. Other wise the day is more to make sure it's alive and prove it's not your fault if it does die.

Okay ill see if its possible..
Otherwise ill just have to take my chances

 

[thebiggerthebetter]

I don't really know what to tell you. It's a gamble with any fish, tig or not, especially in your case, since, if I understood it right, in one day all tigs at that LFS will be sold; hence, if one wanted a tig, they would have to take risks. IME, I don't find tigs to be sensitive. But I have been told of some bad tig shipments, where most or all would perish shortly after arrival.

Properly packed fish under oxygen is usually good for 48 hours.

The way I see it, there are pros and cons to leaving the tig at the LFS for a day. One con is that the fish will need to acclimate to a new water and tank twice, instead of once, and in short succession. Stress tends to build up.

I am not quite certain what Moe and Ron are saying. That the temp acclimation is all that's needed / reasonable? No need to gradually acclimate to pH, hardness, etc.? Why do people drip acclimate?

I am not criticizing but looking to learn. My default acclimation method is empty the water and fish from a bag into a bucket. Add water from tank stepwise until the water in the bucket is 75%-90% tank water. Sometimes I do it in 3 steps over a 20-30 min. It could take as many as 10 steps and 1-2 hours. Depends on fish, the temp difference, etc.

... But I guess the ammonia is "activated" so to speak when the oxygen hits the water, never looked into it much...

I'd like to read more on this because I don't get it. The water in the shipping bag is under almost pure oxygen.

 

[Ogertron3000]

I'm not an expert and not familiar with the care of this fish but I think I would get it before it's been put into the stores tank. I think after a flight from Sri lanka, being acclimatised to the LFS tank then being scooped,out bagged up again and driven for 6 hours only to be acclimatised to yet another tank would be very stressful. I also don't think a day in the LFS is enough to know if the fish has been irreparably stressed form the import journey. Once I got it home I would follow the bucket acclimatisation method in the above post.
This is all,based on assuming the fish has been packed correctly for export and has adequate oxygen in the bag.
As I said I'm not an expert this is just my opinion. Whatever you decide is best, good luck, let us know how it goes.

 

[moe214]

I don't really know what to tell you. It's a gamble with any fish, tig or not, especially in your case, since, if I understood it right, in one day all tigs at that LFS will be sold; hence, if one wanted a tig, they would have to take risks. IME, I don't find tigs to be sensitive. But I have been told of some bad tig shipments, where most or all would perish shortly after arrival.

Properly packed fish under oxygen is usually good for 48 hours.

The way I see it, there are pros and cons to leaving the tig at the LFS for a day. One con is that the fish will need to acclimate to a new water and tank twice, instead of once, and in short succession. Stress tends to build up.

I am not quite certain what Moe and Ron are saying. That the temp acclimation is all that's needed / reasonable? No need to gradually acclimate to pH, hardness, etc.? Why do people drip acclimate?

I am not criticizing but looking to learn. My default acclimation method is empty the water and fish from a bag into a bucket. Add water from tank stepwise until the water in the bucket is 75%-90% tank water. Sometimes I do it in 3 steps over a 20-30 min. It could take as many as 10 steps and 1-2 hours. Depends on fish, the temp difference, etc.



I'd like to read more on this because I don't get it. The water in the shipping bag is under almost pure oxygen.

I was just saying what I do personally. Originally I used to just temp acclimate when I was younger, got older learned of ph etc. so began emptying into a bucket and acclimating by adding some water here and there with a small container. Then when I heard of the ammonia thing, having never had an issue with just temp acclimating I went back to it and minimized the time of them being in the transport water once its exposed to the atomosphere. Initially my thoughts were oxygen is already in the bag and may be replaced with carbon dioxide, but I guess I got influenced because it's was from king of DIY. Again I never looked into it but because I never had an issue with temp acclimation I went back to it just to avoid the possible risk. If it ain't broke don't fix it right

 

[dudefish82]

Thanks guys only one arrived it was put in the tank today early morning ill be going there to tmrw afternoon to pick it up.
The shipment wasnt that long considering the fish was imported from singapore its not a long flight..
Fish looked okay but I dont know.
Will go and check tmrw.