^ yeah my bad about starting size.. Starting Size would be smallest currently available. A grass pickerel is sadly not what Im looking for. As for the Pima I would get one If I could keep it for a year. Never really got interested in the african aro's... thanks though!
How long would a 180 suffice?
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Goliath Tigerfish should really not be kept in an aquarium. They get HUGE and eat like crazy! if you REALLY want one, you need upwards of 800 gallons to keep it for even a few years. Then the problem becomes finding something to do with the fish when it does outgrow your tank! Cuz even at 800 gallons, it WILL outgrow your tank.
The largest recorded in home aquaria was close to 3 feet. They can be kept in home aquariums, many people have done so. You just stated your opinion which has zero to do with my inquiry...... thanks
sorry, i thought you already had the pike. I'd get either1 or 2 of the tropicals for the tank or the pike and/or a local species that rivals it as top of the food chain like bowfin. the bowfin would probably be the best option for a tankmate with the pike as they are mean enough to hold their own with most aggressive fish plus they have more bulk then pike, and like similar water conditions. The temperature is the big issue. pike like cooler water, which is difficult for tropicals to adjust to and vice versa for the pike in warm water. Plus most of the fish on your wish list are delicate and somewhat cowardly as juveniles and don't mix well with aggressive fish like pike, unless substantially bigger. to keep anything on your wish list for life start looking at 4-5 digit gallon numbers before the fish even approach outgrowing the 180, babies tend to grow very fast if kept properly.
Finally helpful advice! Yeah I've been looking for a 4-5 hundred gallon recently And I knew that some of these fish grow fast and some grow slow so that was why I posted the thread because I know ATF's grow at something like 6-9 inches a year typically. Now which two of the tropicals do you think would work best together/ do you think instead of a bowfin a dual pike combination or a pike/musky combo could work?
coldwater fish grow slower so i'd do a coldwater combo unless you can get the larger tank set up and properly cycled within a few months. Musky have a mountain or red tape to aquire with the possible exeption of tiger muskie. But those are rarely made by fish farms. if you're guarenteed the pike and have the proper permit to own the pike i'd get the bowfin because they have far less red tape and often no managed season, so they're easier to aquire. If you must do tropicals i'd get the armatus because they are not borderline impossible to aquire like your other options and stay smaller then the true behemoths you want, but they are pretty aggressive with one another so you might need more then 2 or preferably just 1, it will last longer in the 180. they need warm water with enough current to replicate the white water they are found in. You'll need to provide plenty of swimming room as well as cover, especially for juveniles. Many armatus and tigerfish die when they get stressed and slam full speed into the glass. for both options you will need around 800-1000 gallons bare minimum to keep the adults. but I would go larger still if you want more then 1 or 2 fish.
Hmph... I can't say I agree with you on everything But definitly some things. What do you mean by "red tape" by the way? I would wildly catch the pike(s) by the way. I also kind of think 800-1000 gallons for 1 armatus is quite an overstatement seeing as how the largest I've personally heard of in the home aquariais 30 inches. Do you have any input on tank size for a single golden dorado?
i've never even heard of captive dorado so I cannot elaborate on them. it's illegal to own many game fish in north america without a permit, pike included. i said bowfin are easier to get because they are catagorized as coarse fish, you don't need the permit, plus they count as fish caught so if you eat pike you will only be allowed to take one home instead of 2.. tiger muskie are a hybrid of pike and muskie, I don't think you need a permit to own them but very few fish farms raise them and those that do tend to sell in bulk only My bad for armatus, I was thinking about scombs, which gets about pretty big and are very energetic. you'd still need a tank in the high triple digits to keep them. As i said they can be very aggressive with each other and often kill others of their own kind, especially in aquaria
yeah I have a pond down the street so I'm not gunna worry to to much about a permit. I'm surprised you havent heard of captive dorado though... they are sold at shark aquarium/aquascape/ Tangled up in cichlids quite often.
So a GATF is too big for an aquarium, you say? But yet you make no comment on an Arapaima...?
