How much is an 18" wild oscar worth?

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TimTheBadass;4939876;4939876 said:
I totally agree with you. Plus all those that are dropping these next to nothing prices need to read the title again. Your giving values for a standard large oscar which is a useless contribution.
I don't think any of us here have ever seen an 18" oscar, let alone a wild caught one. If someone said how much is a 30" wild caught dovii worth, would your reply be "large doviis go for $50 in my area", I don't think so.

I am however wondering, have you actually netted and measured this fish or is 18" an eyeball figure. You could probably get £60-70 for it if you advertised it for a long time and you were in no rush to sell it.
"How much is an 18" wild Oscar worth?" It is the same question as it was the first time I read it. So my point remains the same. The price is purely subjective no matter how personal or how passionate that you feel about Oscars. The argument about a Dovii or any other fish of comparable size to the mentioned Oscar really has no merit. Being large,Wild, or farm raised doesn't always reflect the value. The values only become "useless" to you when they differ from your own strong beliefs. I see many other large cichlids in the MFK marketplace ranging from triple digit prices all the way down to free. It all depends on how much a person wants the fish, how much they are willing to pay. To get a fair market value, the best thing to do is to check vendor and private seller prices of Oscars closer to the size and quality of the one in question. Then go from there. Individual opinions will vary. So there really is no point in getting upset or angry about the "qoutes" given by other members. The OP isn't even selling this Oscar. He bought it. I think he just wants to see if he got a fair deal.
 
As mentioned before something is worth whatever the market in your aria will bear. In Florida you can catch all the , technically, wild (feral) O's you want for the price of gas to go fish them. If the buyer and seller are happy with the deal then it was a good price. The $75 dollar O I mentioned before was the biggest I have personal witnessed and it was right at or just over the 18" mark. It was tank raised and returned to an LFS, so a truly wild one that size might be worth more. I don't know. I am not hung up on wild O's so I would probably opt to pay less for a captive raised O.
 
VRWC;4939949; said:
Its worth whatever someone who wants it will pay for it, THATS IT. Plain and simple.

You are partly right but you are missing one big important piece of the puzzle: Its worth what someone will pay for it,

as long as that someone is in the market for a large wild caught oscar

"In the market" means that they are actually looking for one to buy. Not people who wouldnt take it for free.

Gruff Master;4940045; said:
Being large,Wild, or farm raised doesn't always reflect the value.


Actually it does. In the buyers market for oscars, wild caught specimens are scarcer and therefore worth more than farm bred fish. Of course, scarcity doesnt matter to people who dont want one anyway.
 
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Chaz88;4940219; said:
As mentioned before something is worth whatever the market in your aria will bear. In Florida you can catch all the , technically, wild (feral) O's you want for the price of gas to go fish them.

Wild caught usually means from their native habitat.
 
VRWC;4939949; said:
I read the title again...and again. I wouldnt take it for free. I wouldnt take it if you offered me $50 to take it. I have no use for an 18" fish, no matter the type. I like how Oscars look and how they are owner responsive, but they are poop factories and Id imagine an 18" is even more so.

If someone asked how much would I pay for a 30" dovii, Id say the exact same thing..and would possibly up my "I wouldnt take it if you offered me $50 to take it" quote to $100. I know what a fish like that needs and I couldnt offer it ideal conditions, even with a 265g tank.

Its worth whatever someone who wants it will pay for it, THATS IT. Plain and simple.

If I could find one, Id pay up to $5000 for a 1969 left handed Fender Stratocaster with a red to yellow sunburst. Would you? I doubt it because it doesnt mean squat to you. Just like an 18" WC (feral?) Oscar or a 30" Dovii is to me.

All this talk (mine and yours included) is subjective and, as you put it, "a useless contribution."

Again nothing you write is any use to the OP. He is selling the fish and wants to know what the price tag should be. Also it's not a feral Oscar. You can't fish for them in the UK duh. You clearly have absolutely no interest in oscars so why bother posting?
If you and a number of other people will pay $5000 dollars for a vintage strat then that's what it's worth.


Gruff Master;4940045; said:
"How much is an 18" wild Oscar worth?" It is the same question as it was the first time I read it. So my point remains the same. The price is purely subjective no matter how personal or how passionate that you feel about Oscars. The argument about a Dovii or any other fish of comparable size to the mentioned Oscar really has no merit. Being large,Wild, or farm raised doesn't always reflect the value. The values only become "useless" to you when they differ from your own strong beliefs. I see many other large cichlids in the MFK marketplace ranging from triple digit prices all the way down to free. It all depends on how much a person wants the fish, how much they are willing to pay. To get a fair market value, the best thing to do is to check vendor and private seller prices of Oscars closer to the size and quality of the one in question. Then go from there. Individual opinions will vary. So there really is no point in getting upset or angry about the "qoutes" given by other members. The OP isn't even selling this Oscar. He bought it. I think he just wants to see if he got a fair deal.

I'm not angry about the quotes. I just think they are irrelevant. The OP is selling this fish. I've seen it for sale. He wants to know what a fair price tag should be and how much people who like big oscars would pay. Obviously if you don't like oscars you wouldn't pay anything so there's no need to post here. My dovii example has plenty of merit. We both know a 30" dovii would sell for a good amount so therefore demands a higher price tag.
It's as simple as this. If you are interested in large genuine WC oscars and are intrigued by one of this size, say how much you would pay for it. If you don't like oscars then why are you reading this thread or even throwing in your 2 cents?
 
Mostly fish stores (which is the only value standard I'm aware of in fish keeping) double the market price. Market price being set by those who raise or catch the fish.

I guess I'd ask myself - whats the fish worth to me and then try to find a buyer. You could also set your price and still ad the fact that you are willing to entertain offers.

I don't think this thread really involved "Oscar Haters". It is a fact that Oscars w/c or other are not sold for the big bucks in retail stores. Once again retail stores and suppliers set the only used standard. Larger oscars do sell for more up to an extent.
After 6-8" their prices fall for one reason and one reason only - Overhead. It costs the stores more to keep them long term with less of a demand than those sold at 2-3 inches.

And lastly - I would argue that Oscars are NOT the #1 cichlid wet pet. They fall short to Angelfish and Convicts, both have been in this hobby since the invention of the wheel and are easier to house as most consumers don't want large tanks to care for. I would also argue that Oscars are lossing ground to the lil' colorful buggers from Africa.
 
Otherone;4940945; said:
Mostly fish stores (which is the only value standard I'm aware of in fish keeping) double the market price. Market price being set by those who raise or catch the fish.

Market price is set by the market which is made up of sellers and buyers creating supply and demand.

Otherone;4940945; said:
And lastly - I would argue that Oscars are NOT the #1 cichlid wet pet. They fall short to Angelfish and Convicts, both have been in this hobby since the invention of the wheel and are easier to house as most consumers don't want large tanks to care for. I would also argue that Oscars are lossing ground to the lil' colorful buggers from Africa.

Oscars set the standard for the term "wet pet" which is a single fish that interacts with its owner alone. Angels, cons and guppies are not wet pets.

Otherone;4940945; said:
I don't think this thread really involved "Oscar Haters".

We can be kind and call it ignorance up to a point.
 
Heres my .02. An lfs in a smaller town near me will get take in oscars up to 12" and sell them for $25. They always stock smaller 2-3" oscars but never stock large oscars due to them being hard to sell. Another store in larger town with more jobs will sell 4" oscars for $30 and ones that 10-12" for closer to $75. So, it all boils down to the market for the fish and your location.
 
POST #10 says "It's worth what the right buyer is willing to shell out for it."

That's the best answer...short and sweet. It's about supply and demand. Try asking the highest price you think is fair and negotiate from there.


Oscarum monstruoso;4941077; said:
Oscars set the standard for the term "wet pet" which is a single fish that interacts with its owner alone. Angels, cons and guppies are not wet pets

On a side note, I disagree with this statement. Anything that someone keeps in a tank (in water, therefore it's wet) as a pet, from fish to crustaceans to amphibians etc, is a 'wet pet' to them. I consider my little fish to be a pet just as much as my larger fish.
 
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