How to get carp to eat!
- Thread starter DDK
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Your probably one of the guys who catch a 12 inch trout and say its a 26 inch monster huh? And I'm bsing size?
You just prove to me your full of sh%t. 16 inch carp can only bear not even 2000 eggs while a MATURE 30+ inch carp can produce over a million. So how is 2000 eggs compared to a 1,000,000? Thats not a fully mature car and to me its a juvie. 3-4 years is a fully mature carp. Find me a 16 inch carp that is a successful parent. Find me a koi farm who use 16 inch koi to breed. Every koi farm i have visited use 3-4 year old carp who are a good 36 inches. Not something more than 1/2 that size. Go ahead find me a farm who use koi that are 1.3 years old to breed.
And here use your fingers and measure it out and see if im bsing. I said the one in the picture is a 13 incher right? So i measured the carp on my desktop is 8.5 inches and my hand from knuckle to knuckle in the picture is 2 inches so 2 divided by 8.5 is 4.25 correct? So then use this 4.25 and multiply it by the 3 inches it represents so 4.25x3=12.75 inches.
and ps even the estimated 2000 eggs that a 16 inch female MAY lay they have no chance in survival. The egg shells are way to thin and they will NOT survive.
Read more carefully next time....where did I say that a 16" carp will produce 2,000 eggs? A juvenile is not capable to reproduce and not sexually mature. If it's capable to reproduce at that size, I would say that it's an adult, just not a fully mature one but it's no longer a juvenile. Since you have some knowledge on koi farms, you must knowing this that different strains (both koi and domesticated carp) may be early maturity or late maturity and some strains may have slowest growth rate or fastest growth rates. To be fair, I've seen some smaller koi between 10-14" that displayed the spawning behavior out in the ponds at my old college and have fry after that. The 30" ones you saw at koi farms are usually high quality proven prized koi. Would you use a year old koi with unknown or no breeding records? 3-4 years old may be fully mature for some strains of carps but like I said, not all carps are fully mature at 4 years old.
Anyways, I stated my reasons about why the carps are not eating is because you just caught them on hooks then tied them into their mouths with the rope and put them in a new place. Adults are difficult to adapt to the captivity and also new diet which that is why I suggested you to get much smaller carps (2-5" would be ideal), they are highly adaptable and they will follow you like puppy.
The 16 inch came from you saying my fish is 16 inches and the 2000 eggs is my guess of what a 16 inch carp can lay. But non the less the no matter how many eggs a 16 inch koi or carp lays, the egg walls are to thin and will not survive. The hooks i use are a size 10 and that fits in your finger nail so its not because of damage to their mouth and the rope is tied in their gill plate through the mouth which will have no affect to their ability to eat. You're assumption that they are not eating because i caught them on hooks is bull crap. I have caught countless fish on hooks and put them in fish tanks and they readily accept food. Being that they are in a multi thousand gallon pond makes feeding difficult. My pond is 6 feet deep and they wont come up to feed. The only thing that makes some what sense is that they are in a new environment. Not that they are caught on hooks. I have had carps in fish tanks and they see the food and accept it easily. But in the pond its a different story.
I did some measurements of the pond today and its 25 feet long and 15 feet wide and depth is 6 feet so off the top of my head it should be a little over 14k? But i snuck up on the carp this morning and they were at the top where some day old koi food was so i guess there learning to come up for food!
