HR 669 : CONGRESSIONAL HEARING BANNING NONNATIVE SPECIES APRIL 23, 2009 ACTION NEEDED

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Aquamojo;2973659; said:
I didn't read through all of the posts here...but wanted to comment on just a few things. I read about this proposed bill a while back when a guy I know through some other guys wanted to do some "self regulating" on the big three of fish trying to get retailers and fish farmers to ban the sale of Pacu, Red Tail Catfish...and some other fish. Nothing you would expect like a large cichlid...I think it was one of the freshwater "sharks". At the time he set out the proposal (and I have his site somewhere and will post it) the people who got it all agreed that doing that would get some crazy politician to say, "see, if they are trying to stop them themselves they must be bad." and come up with some crap like whats being discussed here. Nah...that won't happen...well, bingo. IN all fairnes, I don't know if the chicken came before the egg here...but the coincidence going in either direction is amazing.

The rules as they are now are crazy in the US. Piranha are illegal in Kentucky, but you can drive across the state lie and buy them. I can't site other examples, but I'm certain there are similar instances.

First, don't NOT do something. Even if it's the fisrt time...write your representative, sign a petition..something. Crazy times.

Second, I think it would be TOTALLY IMPOSSIBLE to regulate what's already out there. Think about the number of people that would have to be added to prevent folks from selling fish at clubs, on line, etc.

Third, if you read the bill, it's ALL animals....birds, hamsters, gerbils, rodents in general, anything that is a pet. It might be this candy coated layer of $hit that helps the fish end of the deal There is too big a chunk of the economy that relies on the pet industry. They won't be taking any of this lightly. Pray that for the first time in our democratic society that the "lobbyists" do their job...in OUR favor.

Fourth, the part of the bill that scares me most is that it says, you might be able to keep them after they are "considered" Ok. They go on one list while they are considered THEN moved to either the yes or the no list. While being considered...right or wrong...you still can't have them.

Fifth, I believe it was a representative from Guam who introduced the bill. Yes, I know...it's the U.S. But no it not. Guam? Puhlease...

Finally, I would almost guarantee that SOMETHING will come of this billl. I don't think it will have a chance in hell in passing as it is...sorry Australia and all you other poor chaps with your parliamentary democracies...you aren't the U.S. and for the most part (eat me, Guam) we aren't as crazy...most of the time. LOL I STILL have more faith in OUR political idiots than I do yours. I love you guys...but still pump red, white and blue through my veins.

But regardless...something is going to happen with this. I think at a minimum...all of the private collecting trips to other countries will be memorialized in photos. I don't think we will be bringing fish back any more. They will probably finalize or firm up some of the interstate rules in regards to other species...fish, fowl, etc.

What really burns my *** is that with all this going on why don't they concentrate on a real problem like getting rid of back yard breeders of dog and cats. My wife and I work non stop with many of the shelters in our area. The amount of unwanted dogs and cats that are euthanized daily because they are not spayed or neutered and breed is mind blowing. We loose much more both in our environment and in our communities and out of our pockets because of feral "dogs and cats".

I think we should send over a couple crates of virile cats to Guam and let representative Madeleine Bordallo understand what a REAL problem can be. Joking, of course. I know that environmental threats are a serious topic. It just looks like they are trying to squash a bug with a sledge hammer here.

Write who you can...spread the word...keep the conversation civil. It's OUR HOBBY...we all SHARE a passion for this hobby.

Peace.

Mo
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Mo I think you need to be in DC in the 23rd to represent us. Ken
 
Im not a US citizen but i feel for you guys. God knows what i would do if this type of law hit the UK.

Fingers crossed this never gets through.
 
Bellacornuta;2971295; said:
The funny part is they can't do crap. They can't come into your home and monitor what you have. Things may be harder to come by. That is true. But they can't cripple the hobby all together. Keep it on the DOWN low
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Um, if they brand you an eco terrorist they damn well can. I very much doubt they would but make no mistake as to their ability to do so.
 
If you want to fix the snake head problem put a $50 bounty on them and a no limit hunt keep them banned from the aquarium trade for 5 years. Most of the invasive species are already here and most were not introduced by hobbits but by commercial interests. I'm not against having a banned fish list, that's actually a good idea. Snake heads should require a permit at the minimum since the will out grow all but the largest of home aquariums. It's the approved list that worries me, especially who says what's approved?

Mass has an approved gun list. The Dessert Eagle is not on the list, neither is most of Sig Sauer guns which I want, all of which are semi-autos. The UZI (yes the AUTOMATIC Israeli sub machine gun) is perfectly legal to own, don't believe me check, can't get to the link at work. I'm seeing some idiot equate south America Chilids(sp) as bad so now Discus end up banned. Mass has many similar examples especially in herping, all monitors are banned becasue some kids got mauled by some clowns adult nile monitor.
 
dbcb314;2972639; said:
I sent an e-mail to my representative even though indiana wasn't mentioned on the bill that I saw

just in case who knows


Well I just realized the title of this thread is wrong and its 699 not 669

awesome... now he thinks i am a lunatic because I mentioned fish and Protect Children from Video Game Sex and Violence Act of 2003 (Introduced in House)
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the title of the thread is correct..

HR669 : Nonnative Wildlife Invasion Prevention Act

HR699 : Pledge Protection Act of 2007
 
Looking at my red snakehead, while I'm typing this , I count myself fortunate to be living in Japan.
I really hope this bill does not get approved.:(
 
I think it's interesting that goldfish are on the list of animals already approved, yet they are one of the few fish in the aquarium hobby that a- reguraly outgrows peoples tanks b-can thrive in the entire usa watershed, except saltwater c-are already somewhat of a pest in many locations due to being used as fishbait d- are clearly much more of a threat to our ecosystem than say, an angelfish.
 
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