My son caught this guy over spring break (w/ cast net). He was 17 inches and 4 pounds (very thick fish) - I googles and it appears the Florida record is 21 inches and just shy of 10 pounds. We brought back a 5 incher that is in the quarantine tank - will be interesting to see the temperament. Judging by the size of their beds, they cover a large territory. These are relatively new to the area there (golf course ponds). Mayans and black acaras have been there for a while.