Hunting ?

[hamato_yoshii]

Yeah, since a squealing pig hanging upside down to get its throat slit is so sporting...

Come on, you know they just let all the animals die of old age, whenever their happy lives come to an end, then we get to eat them.




BTW, really as long as they don't see it (the slaughter) it doesn't exist. But they see our guns so we're the bad guys.

 

[dragonfish]

Come on, you know they just let all the animals die of old age, whenever their happy lives come to an end, then we get to eat them.

Finally the light clicks on.


BTW, really as long as they don't see it (the slaughter) it doesn't exist. But they see our guns so we're the bad guys.

Believing something exists without actually having witnessed it is called faith. That's Delgado's area of expertise not mine. You are bad for owning firearms? Never said that, no idea where that came from. Maybe sniffing too much gunpowder. You're bad if you feel the need to end another creatures life unnecessarily when the stores are filled with the meat of animals who committed suicide for our benefit. If you read my post completely you would have seen that I am also one of those bad gun owning people. I just don't feel the need to justify it by shooting Bambi, Thumper or any other creature simply for my pleasure.

 

[Dan F]

I've been to the slaughterhouse lots of times, my family has raised sheep my whole life. The bolt through the head is a quick way to die. The problem is the last few hours/days of the animals' lives. The smell of death is thick in the air - the animals are absolutely freaking out. They are packed into stalls and then hauled onto the killing floor. The problem with this is the animals build up maximum levels of stress hormones and waste material in the meat. I've never seen it, but chickens are treated more like objects than living things in the American industrial farming system.

That's why mobile slaughter is such a big improvement. The animal is led out of the barn into the field with some grain, usually they don't know what hit them. The meat tastes better and is better for you, guaranteed.

Interesting turn on the thread, not meant to derail.

Which of the above does hunting closer resemble?

 

[fourty2]

I've been to the slaughterhouse lots of times, my family has raised sheep my whole life. The bolt through the head is a quick way to die. The problem is the last few hours/days of the animals' lives. The smell of death is thick in the air - the animals are absolutely freaking out. They are packed into stalls and then hauled onto the killing floor. The problem with this is the animals build up maximum levels of stress hormones and waste material in the meat. I've never seen it, but chickens are treated more like objects than living things in the American industrial farming system.

That's why mobile slaughter is such a big improvement. The animal is led out of the barn into the field with some grain, usually they don't know what hit them. The meat tastes better and is better for you, guaranteed.

Interesting turn on the thread, not meant to derail.

Which of the above does hunting closer resemble?

some good points there Dan

 

[Frank Shortt]

To each his own. This could go on forever and no one wins. I have been a hunter in the past and most likley will be in the furture. I try to stay out of this kind of discussion because they are hopeless.
The only thing I would like to add is a bit of advice to all.
NEVER NAME A PIG YOU ARE GOING TO EAT..LOL
Have a good day everyone..LOL

 

[jojo_nature]

Yes this thread is a little biased, i appologise. Personally i have no problem with some hunting , If it's to put food on the table (obviousley no endangered animal's) .I hate the idea of trophy hunting ,killing an animal for pleasure is obscene.Im not a veggy and with more information about how farmed animal's are raised and treated i stay away from the intensively farmed now.I appreciate the skill's involved in hunting and preparing your own meat and part of me would like learn but i could not look into an animal's eye's and then kill it (unless in a survival situation).

 

[jcardona1]

Next time think before opening your trap to bad mouth and name call anyone who doesn't agree with your poorly conceived notion of what is required to prove your manhood. When you go out hunting without your high powered weapon, actually track down your quarry, sneak up on it and take it down from close range for the need of a meal, then you are a hunter. Any other way or excuses like government surveys show that it helps the herd and they will starve if we don't kill them is just a little child playing at being a man and playing with himself by proxy. So sayeth this tree hugging, gun owning, non vegetarian hippy.

Here we go again with this BS. All you folks strongly against hunting have not posed one good argument and always use this line. Seriously is that the best you can do? Saying that hunters are trying to prove their manhood? Come on get real. Everybody here that says they hunt ALSO eats what they kill and nothing goes to waste. So whats the problem? That they're not using sticks and rocks to kill theyre prey?

But you are right about one thing though, we can only agree to disagree, and that will never change. This can go on forever.

And finally, we hunt because we CAN, because we LIKE TO, because we are the supreme creature on this planet and we use high-powered weapons because they make the job easier

 

[princess]

hunting deers here is illegal i've only even seen one deer my whole life! and to hear people talking about killing them for fun makes me feel sad. and you have to understand that right?

another person said that if you eat meat and dislike hunting that is very contaditcting, which is a fair point.

the only meat i eat is chicken ( free range chicken ) from my grandmothers farm i've seen how they kill it...its only a small farm and maily eggs and milk but she does have chicken meat to sell to close friends/family....

i myself have even killed a chicken ...not with no guns or wasn't fun for me it wasn't some kinda game i just quickly picked it up broke its neck with my hands and thats it...i have to say i felt sad..but i knew it had a good life and was no longer producing eggs.

i have seen how battery chickens are kept and that makes me feel 100 times worse than what i did.

and when i have my own house i will have my own chickens.........and a donkey but the donkey is going to be a pet hehe

 

[JD7.62]

I saw about 6 dead deer on the way to work today They are like rats over here! But of course according to the boy on the hill they are going to be extinct in 20 years!

 

[hamato_yoshii]

Believing something exists without actually having witnessed it is called faith. That's Delgado's area of expertise not mine. You are bad for owning firearms? Never said that, no idea where that came from. Maybe sniffing too much gunpowder. You're bad if you feel the need to end another creatures life unnecessarily when the stores are filled with the meat of animals who committed suicide for our benefit. If you read my post completely you would have seen that I am also one of those bad gun owning people. I just don't feel the need to justify it by shooting Bambi, Thumper or any other creature simply for my pleasure.

Look the point is, somebody kills your meat. You think it's ok because they are "commiting suicide for our benefit" (whatever that means), but someone kills them, for you to buy and eat. I kill deer, to eat. The difference is I do the work. What do you think they do with the meat that they can't sell? They throw it out. So, does that put you in the same boat as us, except your weapon of choice is the supermarket instead of a high powered scope?