hybrid

[Gshock]

well it depends of the individual owner. i would like to do a hybrid of asian and aussy not for the profit gain of it. but to strengthen the genetic make up. pure breeding is nice, but you must understand that pure breeding leads to many defects. you get nice colors and etc...yes but your also purifying a strain of defects/dieseas.

What are you talking about LOL, thats only if you start inbreeding fish from the same parents continuously. How would culling be purifying a strain of defects, unless you're saying the whole population of a species is infected with a defect or disease which doesn't make any sense at all...Usually, for an already endangered species, the point is to PREVENT hybrids and to maximize the numbers of pure specimens, not to start making all these hybrids to so called "strengthen the genetic make up." Your so called strengthened genetic make up has a very high possibility of being all screwed up because you're trying to combine two different species with two different genetic make ups. Theres a reason why so many hybrids have shorter life spans or come out sterile...

 

[Full Metal Gundam]

It probably is possible to hybridize an Asian and a Jardini, but the question is why would they? An Asian Arowana is worth more as a pure Asian, hybridizing an Asian with a Australian Aro would not be cost effective and would be a waste of time and money compared to rasing pure Asian Aro fry's.

the only reason I can see why they would try such a thing is that they could actually import them as jardini's and charge near asian price

 

[Koji]

The picture is showing a jardini only. Where's the hybrid?

 

[SimonL]

The hybrid doesn't exist lol, this is a metaphorical discussion of "what if".

 

[Mr.Nooby]

What are you talking about LOL, thats only if you start inbreeding fish from the same parents continuously. How would culling be purifying a strain of defects, unless you're saying the whole population of a species is infected with a defect or disease which doesn't make any sense at all...Usually, for an already endangered species, the point is to PREVENT hybrids and to maximize the numbers of pure specimens, not to start making all these hybrids to so called "strengthen the genetic make up." Your so called strengthened genetic make up has a very high possibility of being all screwed up because you're trying to combine two different species with two different genetic make ups. Theres a reason why so many hybrids have shorter life spans or come out sterile...

well the point of maintaining the specie genetic is to pure breed it. all species of any living organism have defects and mutations. with the limited number of asian arrowana(many times farmers tries to breed towards a specific color so they breed family members of the same arrow to get the best chance of sucess) you will be breeding brother to sister and sister to father..etc sooner or later your gonna reach a point that the fish started to have offsprings that dies early(unless you breed a super red family to a green family). through hybridizing you can create one that is weak, one that is sterile, or one that is non of both. I think that the only reason scientist consider aus and asian different is because of scale# and geographic. besides that they are very closely related in my opinion.

 

[aussiemonsters]

Only just saw this it is definately a Jardini.

 

[Jakob]

As said before it is a pure Jardini. I really dont know if hybridizing asians and aussies together is possible so i wont join that arguement.
Lets say it is possible. You dont know if people have tried it, there is a possibility that it will only inherit the looks of either species (either fish has dominant genes).
Or that they hybrids are deformed etc.

 

[tigrey]

nice jar

 

[Gshock]

well the point of maintaining the specie genetic is to pure breed it. all species of any living organism have defects and mutations. with the limited number of asian arrowana(many times farmers tries to breed towards a specific color so they breed family members of the same arrow to get the best chance of sucess) you will be breeding brother to sister and sister to father..etc sooner or later your gonna reach a point that the fish started to have offsprings that dies early(unless you breed a super red family to a green family). through hybridizing you can create one that is weak, one that is sterile, or one that is non of both. I think that the only reason scientist consider aus and asian different is because of scale# and geographic. besides that they are very closely related in my opinion.

If its going to take an aro a few years to mature, along with the few years to partner up FOR LIFE, they are not going to be breeding offspring with parents. Quite possible for them to be breeding sibling offspring, but definitely won't be a big chance at all. Just the scale difference is already a genetic difference lol...theres a reason why humans cannot breed with other species no matter how similar they are unless they are genetically tampered with.

 

[SimonL]

Just the scale difference is already a genetic difference lol...theres a reason why humans cannot breed with other species no matter how similar they are unless they are genetically tampered with.

There's no science background to that...fish have a much more mutable genetic structure than mammals, allowing for hybrids of not only members of a genus, but members of different familes with the same order. Look at the various catfish hybrids, there is far more difference between TSN and RTC (different genus) than Jardinis and Asians (same genus).

The specific name of the genetic term for this process currently escapes me, but we looked at in Bio. Hopefully someone will chip in with better Bio knowledge.