I am cursed by fish fairy...

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flamenco-t

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If there is such thing...

Since monday I have lost...

1 - Vampire Pleco
1 - Fei Feng
2 - Atabapo Pikes
2 - Black Arowanas

WTF happen ? I got all those fish exactly last saturday and now they're all dead...

Water parameter are perfect ( I have done WC and my other fish are doing great)

I am guessing parasites ? the fei feng started to grow fungus.

I have treat them with salt, WC, Prazi Pro, Melafix and Pimafix to combat secondary infection.

This is the worst freaking week EVER...

stan
 
Wow, that sucks. Nevermind the money lost, the fact that you lost so many fish you obviously desired to care for in such a short time can really affect your overall outlook on our hobby.
I have no clue why that would happen aside from bringing in some VERY unwanted virus or acclimation issues, but I am sorry for your loss.
 
I know it wasn't acclimation issues.

Everyone were all well and happy when placed the in the new tank.

This happens within 2-7 days after receiving the fish.

The pikes was never fed the whole time (7 days). They still refuse frozen krill or shrimp. I don't give any of fish any feeders.


It's not water, it's not feeders, it's not shock, what else could it be ?

I am seriously considering throwing the towel...

I can;t bear any loss and I am really really scared. Out of all the fish I brought in last week, the only one that survive is the watermelon pleco and Lenti Pike (he's gasping and getting weaker as we speak). I ordered 11 fish, 3 went to a friend and I am left with 1

stan
 
Man, I don't know what to say. I feel ya. I would be apprehensive as well. Hopefully, some of the bigwigs on here will chime in with their knowledge.
 
Was the tank new? The water new?

The fungus sounds like a tank that wasn't properly cycled. The only time I have ever had fungus strike a fish was adding a Jardini to a new tank that I had believed was cycled.
 
flamenco-t;1588677; said:
If there is such thing...
I am guessing parasites ? the fei feng started to grow fungus.

I have treat them with salt, WC, Prazi Pro, Melafix and Pimafix to combat secondary infection.

Without pics and water parameters, anything any of us could say is but a guess. However, your sig lists one 240g tank with an already healthy stocking level of fish. And the dosing of several meds in a desperate attempt to mitigate further losses tells us a few things.

Were these new fish added into 1 tank, or several? Did they exhibit any signs of stress (rapid respiration, shimmying, hiding in corners or staying in current) prior to their demise? Was their shipping complicated by delay or ill weather? What was the ph/ammonia of their shipping water, and were the fish drip-acclimated or simply floated? Are you certain that the sudden losses were not due to aggression from tankmates?

Both black aros and the atabapo pikes (whichever type they were - Atabapo Fires or the strigata type atabapo) prosper best in black water - low pH, low hardness, low bacterial loads. It is not all that unusual for them to fare poorly in new tanks, or in tanks with heavy loads (re: your 240).

You mention your fei feng had "fungus". Fungal infections are NOT related to parasites, but are opportunistic infections of damaged/exposed tissue, and are easy to diagnose by the presence of cottony growths. These growths are not slimy or gray but white and well, look like cotton! If the growths were gray and slimy, it was a bacterial infection (again, the presence of which does not necessarily mean there were parasites, and can thrive quite well without any help). Such infection could be due to physical stresses like pH burn, ammonia burn, physical damage from other fish, etc.

Treating with multiple remedies/medications is unwarranted and, frankly, BAD. Prazi-pro is most useful as a wormer (being Praziquantel) and being infected with worms generally does not = quick death. There are precious few parasite infections that will kill selectively and rapidly, and even those are easy to spot.

In the end, any advice given cannot replace your fish. You are on the right path with the salt and water changes. The other 3 treatments are probably not going to help your fish, and can only degrade your water quality further.
 
you have sufficient aeration/surface agitation? gasping is not a good sign!
 
The meds listed can cause gasping behavior, I have seen the pima-fix/mela-fix combo cause that when the dosage was too high. I agree with the poster about too much medication. IME parasite meds can be harsh, add on top of that all the other things and you might have caused too much stress for new fish. The old fish were well acclimated to tank conditions so they survived. The new fish were probably trying to adjust and did not handle the stress from the meds. This is all just guessing since we do not know the exact conditions of your tank. You also mention no feeders. If the pikes are wild (and you can almost guarantee they are) then they might not eat anything but live food.
 
if all the fish were added to one tank, it's possible even on an established tank to have a small ammonia spike. the new fish being in a fragile state from shipment may not have been able to handle it, where your original tankmates were healthier and pulled through with little to no symptoms. if this is the case chances are your bacteria bed along with water changes took care of it albeit too late. just a thought.
 
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