ok first off i live in utah. the lps stores that do have them, really don't know shizz about pbass. but when we first seen them as babys we thought they were orinos the label just reads p bass mostly around here because no one knowsthey just order what ever their supplier has. so in saying that i only paid 10$ for it. we got a discount because we bought them all they were asking 20 its about maybe 4" it is the only one thats left that we bought everyone else's died or got eatin. now it grows pretty slow and its eating habits are the same as my other orino but to look at them they have alot of simelaritys but they are not really exact i know every fish is different but you know what i meen .