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I have three roughnecks, 2 savanahs and a nile , and it only took me 2-3 weeks for each to get tame.. Never bite hiss nothing , as friendly as any one of my dogs


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Really? Care to show us some pictures of them and their cages, and tell us what temperatures they are kept at?
 
Allow me to clarify myself, I was shaking in fear when I wrote this thread because I spent the whole day trying to find my monitor who I had thought escaped during a party and it turned out he just picked a great hiding spot in the tank so my real thoughts are a little shaky in my previous words.
I have no current issue with taking care of my monitor, the only issues that really exist is that I can't tong feed him which is an attempt to tame him but that could easily be surpassed if I leave food in the tank. But my biggest complaint with my monitor is that I can't tame him, and it may be possible to, my monitor shows a lot of bold behavior that Peacock Monitors typically don't display, but in the end he'll never become as tame as I wish he would, that's why I bothered to make this thread because I know that there are "dog tame" monitors out there and I just wanted to know if I had the space to house any. I understand that taming monitors isn't an easy task and usually will take quite like a year or so but at least with certain species they become tame enough to free roam where is it would be a horrible mistake to let any Peacock Monitor do that no matter how tame they are because they simply don't become that tame and that's the kind of lizard I wanted. I wanted just simply a monitor lizard that got tame like a Savannah or a Water monitor, I just wanted to know if any other smaller species in which I could house were attainable. A Tegu could work as A.gigas suggested but I don't know, I kinda wanted a monitor but if V. salvator and other massive species are the only ones who even barely fit a tame description than I'll just have either get a Savannah, a tegu, or I'l continue to try to tame my current monitor and care for it till I move out and can house a Water Monitor. I do understand what a "tame" monitor is like for example they can't be treated like beardies , like a beardie doesn't mind being handled but monitors don't like being handled in general so even a tame monitor wouldn't behave that way. I'm pretty sure I know what i'm looking for, unless you meant something else and i'm just not getting it.
Dog tame monitors do not exist, I get so sick of having to explain this. Monitors without proper basking temps don't do anything because they are not hot enough to do anything. Give those monitors a basking area with a 140F surface temperature and see how tame they are...

Let me clarify my point about the handling. Once the animal is larger and not a Peacock monitor, you can begin picking them up and handling them if they let you, as long as you do not restrain them. Restraining them is what they don't like, if you let them crawl over your hands and do what they want, it won't make them hate you. That is only with the bolder species though, the advice I gave you was oriented towards Peacocks.

My advice is as follows: If you want a monitor, stick with your Peacock. If you really must have a new monitor, do not jump to a larger species. Get another small species, an Ackie or a Freckled Monitor. Those are bolder than your Peacock, and will quite happily approach you for food, and will tolerate small amounts of handling, especially the Ackies. Keep in mind you still should not restrain them. I think if you jump to a larger monitor you will end up just as disappointed with it as with your current one, only it will be sucking down an endless amount of food while you decide what species to try next..
Again, stick with your Peacock is my advice. If you want him to stay out more while you are around, there are a few tricks that will help with that. One would actually be to purchase a second Peacock.. I have been theorizing for a while about monitors (particularly small or baby ones) being more secure with others of their species nearby. The idea is that the presence of other monitors reassures them that the area is safe, and they stay out more. I have seen several examples with different species, and they really do seem more bold with the presence of others. Another trick has to do with positioning multiple hides around the basking spot. While basking, they know they are able to shoot into hiding if they need to, and will feel more secure because of it, and will stay out longer. When they stay out watching you instead on instantly hiding, they will work out that you aren't trying to bother them.
 
Really? Care to show us some pictures of them and their cages, and tell us what temperatures they are kept at?

Why would i lie ? Dont have a camera but the savs have a baskin temp of 135-140 the niles about 135and the roughnecks are at 140for basking for each three they each have enclosures that are around 14' by 10' we built a reptile house instead of a garage when we moved in to our house, lots of room for my passion big reptiles, ill add pics as soon as i get a camera and of course the temps dropp 5-20 degres throughout their enclosures


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Dog tame monitors do not exist, I get so sick of having to explain this. Monitors without proper basking temps don't do anything because they are not hot enough to do anything. Give those monitors a basking area with a 140F surface temperature and see how tame they are...

Let me clarify my point about the handling. Once the animal is larger and not a Peacock monitor, you can begin picking them up and handling them if they let you, as long as you do not restrain them. Restraining them is what they don't like, if you let them crawl over your hands and do what they want, it won't make them hate you. That is only with the bolder species though, the advice I gave you was oriented towards Peacocks.

yes that is what I've been trying to do for a while now but I just received new advice to do daily handling sessions, but that would deviate from what I was advised to do in the past, should I try to handle him daily or let him be and pretty much follow my previous instructions?
 
yes that is what I've been trying to do for a while now but I just received new advice to do daily handling sessions, but that would deviate from what I was advised to do in the past, should I try to handle him daily or let him be and pretty much follow my previous instructions?
If he will climb onto your hands on his own then I don't see any reason not to hold him inside his cage, as long as he can choose to get away when he wants to. As long as it is his decision then go ahead, but you should not just yank him out of his cage everyday to try to force him to like you.
 
Why would i lie ? Dont have a camera but the savs have a baskin temp of 135-140 the niles about 135and the roughnecks are at 140for basking for each three they each have enclosures that are around 14' by 10' we built a reptile house instead of a garage when we moved in to our house, lots of room for my passion big reptiles, ill add pics as soon as i get a camera and of course the temps dropp 5-20 degres throughout their enclosures


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You would be surprised how many people have this, that, and everything else, and they're all tame with fifty foot cages, etc. and yet there are never any pictures because funnily enough they never have time, or don't have a camera, or whatever.... Not saying I don't believe you, but well.. I'll look forward to seeing pictures.
 
Ok please answer this because I must'v asked three people and they didn't reply after I asked. My Monitor is only comfortable tong feeding when he is hidden in a specific rock cave and he won't tong feed if he is out in the open, but Smaug is always out in the open sitting on a log, so I have difficulty tong feeding him, what should I do? Or maybe I'm doing something wrong, how far away should food be from him when I tong feed, should hold it close or a like 5 inches away?
 
You would be surprised how many people have this, that, and everything else, and they're all tame with fifty foot cages, etc. and yet there are never any pictures because funnily enough they never have time, or don't have a camera, or whatever.... Not saying I don't believe you, but well.. I'll look forward to seeing pictures.

True, but what do you keep ? And i never seen a purpose for a camera , just a waste of 200$+ too me


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If his mouth is full, he can't defend himself. He doesn't want to eat in the open because he's worried you'll catch him while he's eating. Can you post some pictures of his cage? The more cluttered it is, the more secure he will feel.
Also, are you only tong feeding him, or are you leaving bugs in his cage for him as well? You ought to be doing both, otherwise he will not eat as much as he should if he is trying to keep hidden.
 
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