I wanna get my fish off feeders

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Yeah, it better than I expected. Hes an eager eater, but hes picky. Alot of it has to do with movement, if it doesnt move he shows no interest. The good thing is hes an eager eater, and hes hungry alot. And I think hes used to whenever I throw food its food he eats.

So the fact that the fish expects this, it helps me a little with tricking him. The guppies I gave him arent realyl enough to feed him, he usually devours 2 goldfish atleast to be satisfied. So the guppies were bought more as for training, just enough to get his attention but keep him still hungry. Im looking at him now and hes begging for food. I feel sad to see him like that, but its something I gotta put up with to get something like this to work.
 
Well today I had no progress. The fish is being clever and waiting to see what is dropped before striking. I am thinking up new ideas. I bought a special prong, thats supposedly invisible in the water, so you can mimic live food movement. I will see how this goes.


But I am kinda stuck in which direction I should take right now. Since the fish isnt striking the krill like the first 2 days, I am wondering if I should go back to feeding him like normal to gain his trust again and condition him to strike as soon as food hits the surface of the water.

Or should I skip that and keep trying and keep starving in hopes he will give in. I intend to give a full effort and not quit early. I plan to starve for a few days and keep trying. Its just I dont know if I will get the same results I did today. Because now the fish is being clever. So I am kinda stuck on whether I should start over or just continue with the way things are going now.

I also been thinking of the idea of a teacher fish. But I am stumped on what I should use for that if I decide to go that route.

I know this takes work and you arent gonna accomplish this in just a few days. But I am determined to get this fish off live food. I just think I need to try every techinique possible and be diligent about it.
 
Pyramid_Party;2235726; said:
Well today I had no progress. The fish is being clever and waiting to see what is dropped before striking. I am thinking up new ideas. I bought a special prong, thats supposedly invisible in the water, so you can mimic live food movement. I will see how this goes.


But I am kinda stuck in which direction I should take right now. Since the fish isnt striking the krill like the first 2 days, I am wondering if I should go back to feeding him like normal to gain his trust again and condition him to strike as soon as food hits the surface of the water.

Or should I skip that and keep trying and keep starving in hopes he will give in. I intend to give a full effort and not quit early. I plan to starve for a few days and keep trying. Its just I dont know if I will get the same results I did today. Because now the fish is being clever. So I am kinda stuck on whether I should start over or just continue with the way things are going now.

I also been thinking of the idea of a teacher fish. But I am stumped on what I should use for that if I decide to go that route.

I know this takes work and you arent gonna accomplish this in just a few days. But I am determined to get this fish off live food. I just think I need to try every techinique possible and be diligent about it.

IMO just get a fish that eats whatever you want him to....
the best food for me to get any fish off live has been shrimp from the market.;)
 
Pyramid_Party;2235726; said:
Well today I had no progress. The fish is being clever and waiting to see what is dropped before striking. I am thinking up new ideas. I bought a special prong, thats supposedly invisible in the water, so you can mimic live food movement. I will see how this goes.

:thumbsup: That's what I suggested earlier and have been using myself. If the fish is shy and hides though it doesn't always work. As far as technique there is probably more than one that will work. But before starving for too long I let him go a day or two without food, then I would try the prong.. If he doesn't take it then maybe try wait another day and try just dropping it in. Finally if you're getting to 3-4 days without eating you may have to give in and give him some feeders/recondition. Could he go longer? probably. But he's a rare fish, still a juvenile and hate to see him die over starvation.

This is all personal choice though, and you have many options. Those are just what makes sense to me. And the prong works quite well. I used it only once or twice and after that the fish knew when the shrimp hit the water to eat it.
 
I have always had good luck with market shrimp or even cut chunks of Cod fish or whatever is cheap at the store im at. I always put it by a waterflow in the tank ,it goes shooting across the tank and snap they grab it like a goldfish..
 
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