Ich?

[Moloch]

Bad picture quality & everything...but is this ich?

I haven't noticed it on my Jack Dempsey or my two Bichirs, but I don't see them up close too often, they're still pretty skittish.

 

[Greg31]

If they are little white spots on the skins then yes it is ich. I am not sure from the picture because they kind of look like bubbles. But yes, that is what ich looks like.

 

[Moloch]

Yeah they aren't bubbles...

So now I need to get some Ich treatment, turn my filter off and follow whatever the process is for the treatment? It won't do any good to try and isolate that fish at this point right? I don't have a particularly good way to do it. My only other tank is a 65 in the middle of the initial nitrogen cycle...

edit: tank info (for the tank in question)
20gallons (24x12 on the bottom)
Magnum 250 HOT using the carbon setup that it came with (this is pretty new, a week or so old)
Temp is at 80 degrees
I've got one bubbler for some extra aeration
This rubber-lip pleco a 2inch Jack Dempsey, a 5inch Senegal Bichir and a 3-4inch Senegal Bichir with 2 mystery snails.
Gravel substrate an inch or two deep in the deepest points
A regular 39watt fluorescent bulb on for 8-10 hours a day, some sunlight reaches the tank but nothing exreme
No plants
I feed Hikari sinking carnivore pellets and blood worms 2-3 times a day (I'm stopping with the bloodworms now that I've realized my filter eats more of them than my fish do) and an algae pellet every other day or so.

Not sure what else is relevant. The tank has been up and running with this community of fish for close to 2 months, originally with a topfin 20 powerfilter which I just replaced with the magnum250.

If I remove the pleco, will it be easier to deal with the rest of the tank? If i remove the pleco and monitor my other fish, is there a chance that I won't have to do anything else to it?

 

[Greg31]

I would say treat the entire tank with salt. Raise the temperature to 83-84 F and put 1 teaspoon of salt per gallon every 12 hours.

 

[rubadub]

i just delt with a ich breakout in my tank
treated with salt and bang ich free (just waiting 10 days lol)
i have a pleco and sharks in my tank so i had to dose 2 teaspoons per gallon
and upped the heat to 84 f
i put in 1 teaspoon per gallon first then another teaspoon per gallon after 12 hours
then i stopped and just monitored my water parameters
if i had to do a waterchange i'd remove whatever water was needed then redosed the salt for the amount of water i pulled out
so if i pulled 8 gallons i disolved 16 teaspoons of salt then readded the 8 gallons with the salt mixed in with that

 

[Moloch]

Ok...so with my fish still in the tank I just raise the temp to 84ish? This isn't a bad thing?

And then I add regular table salt or something special? Dissolve it in water before adding to tank?

 

[jcannonb]

Ich will go away on it's own, if you raise the temperature to 85.5-86.0F

Depending on the rest of your stock, some fish cannot tolerate salt at any level.

After I had my outbreak of ich, I actually kept the temperature at 82 all the time.

Higher temperatures will burn oxygen in the water fsater, and leave less oxygen, so you need to make sure you have plenty of bubbles etc...

 

[Moloch]

Ok...so I just up the temp a bit and wait for it to go away? And yeah I think I've got plenty of aeration in the tank.

 

[JacobWhitley]

Bad picture quality & everything...but is this ich?

I haven't noticed it on my Jack Dempsey or my two Bichirs, but I don't see them up close too often, they're still pretty skittish.

if the spots are fuzzy its cotton wool disease but if its crystal like spots its ich

 

[Moloch]

They don't look fuzzy. I've raised the temp on my heater, aiming for about 84* and I'm just going to see how it goes.

At this point, it won't do any good to remove the pleco right? The Ich is in the water, so if anyone else is going to get infected, they're going to get infected regardless of whether the pleco stays or goes?