Ick not clearing up?

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iManipulate;3465604; said:
I know it's overstocked. We got all the fish when they were super tiny. He will be upgrading soon, no worries.

I didn't get to check the levels yet, I'm going to do that today.

Yes, there is carbon in the filter.

I figured we'd have to do a huge water change. He has sand as a substrate in his aquarium, could this also be affecting it?
i had the same problems and most fish died, salt and temp didn't work and sand caused the ich. My sand had massive tiny worms and i was unable to clean them. maybe a better filter and definantly remove the sand.
 
Dominator;3467394; said:
i had the same problems and most fish died, salt and temp didn't work and sand caused the ich. My sand had massive tiny worms and i was unable to clean them. maybe a better filter and definantly remove the sand.

Sand caused ich?!?!! Ohh that is good.

Even better, worms in the sand contributed.

Sorry, ICH is a parasite found in water. Its not fussy about the substrate in the tank, its not more common in tanks with or with out worms.... its common in fish that are stressed and therefor have lowered immunity.

The quality of the filter will only matter if its cycled or not. An uncycled filter will leave the tank with elevated nitrites and ammonia, thus stressing the fish and bringing us back to the cause of ICH. There has been no mention of what kind of filter is on the tank, why do you think a better one is needed?
 
kdrun76;3467905; said:
Sand caused ich?!?!! Ohh that is good.

Even better, worms in the sand contributed.

Sorry, ICH is a parasite found in water. Its not fussy about the substrate in the tank, its not more common in tanks with or with out worms.... its common in fish that are stressed and therefor have lowered immunity.

The quality of the filter will only matter if its cycled or not. An uncycled filter will leave the tank with elevated nitrites and ammonia, thus stressing the fish and bringing us back to the cause of ICH. There has been no mention of what kind of filter is on the tank, why do you think a better one is needed?
i used submersed fluval in planted tank before. like a mentioned, current was too strong. I know what ich is, when fish has white spots all over. That happens when the water is too dirty.
 
Dominator;3467394; said:
i had the same problems and most fish died, salt and temp didn't work and sand caused the ich. My sand had massive tiny worms and i was unable to clean them. maybe a better filter and definantly remove the sand.
Sand caused Ick? :ROFL:
 
I agree, Ich is in the water thru out. but the worms in the sand must be identified to be something else, any clues?

also tried salt & higher temps for Ich treatment but that didn't work for me, but has worked for others I am told.

so I used salt + RidIch + temps to 87 on my discus tank & the Ich was resolved in 5days but still had to treat for 5more days to be sure.

& talk about Ich being ever omnipresent - I had purchased a baby Koi for my discus tank, added after the Ich was resolved. but the baby Koi developed fin rot immediately so I transferred it to my angel tank for treatment with pima & melafix. but wouldn't you know it, one angel developed Ich & another started caudal fin rot. but no evidence of worms or even planaria.

I instead then started salt & Rid Ich again & it took care of the Ich pretty quick. then after a week the Koi started to heal & now has no signs of fin rot, in fact fins grew back nicely.

so in summary, I found salt + Rid Ich + higher temps worked twice in my case, all within last few months.

hope you have fared better. what did you do for your Ich & worms in the sand issue?
 
I just went through a frustrating bout with ick. I used API "Super Ick Cure" and aquarium salt. I did 25% WC daily, redosing the tank with the API meds with each change. I put in about 2 - 3 tbsp. of salt per 10 gal. of water. I boosted the temp in the tank to 84 deg. F. I cleared up all of the ick on the fish within 3 days. Unfortunately, I've been fighting ick on and off (with the arrival of new fish) for the last 6 months or so. I just finally started this regimen for treating them. I used to only boost the temp and use salt, which never had great results. Also, keeping your "hospital tank" as a bare bottom tank helps quite a bit. With no substrate, there's nowhere for any feces and left over food to hide and decompose.
 
i bought some Ich-X yesterday, its a hakari product. i used it last night and my pike is looking alot better. it could have been the salt+heat catching up or the meds, but either case i'll continue to use the meds till the ich is gone
 
iManipulate;3465537; said:
I'm helping my friend with his 20 gal aquarium. It has a Senegal, 2 Cichlids and a Columbian Shark (We had 3, two died already)

I turned up the temperature, took out the plants etc, then I treated his water for ick 3 days in a row. According to the label on my ick meds, and from previous experience, it should be cleared up right now? All of his fish are still covered in it, and sickly.

Do I re administer the treatment? Any idea what went wrong? Help please! We don't want to lose any more!

ick can take up too 2 weeks to clear, most ick meds you apply ofr 3 days, do a 20-25% water change and add more as needed. ick meds kill the ick after if falls from the fish which takes 3 days, thats y most ick 2 weeks, as for temp the temp should be 85. but this dont always work. i have had no luck with running salt and high temp to clear ick. all it did was slow it down, by the 3 week fish died.

the best med i seen for ick so for is by jungle in liquid form. u add one drop per gallon of water. when i have to use this the ick was gone in 2 days but i still ran the meds for 2 weeks just to be shure to kill what lil ick might be learking in the bottom of the tank.

If i was you, on the 4th day do a partial water change and keep the meds going for a few more days.
 
one problem compounding into another. FYI, when I purchase a new fish, I always put it in my quarantine/med tank for at least a week to make sure it doesnt' have a disease that I want to spread throughout my main tanks...My fish have only had ich once, and it was from a stupid Brichardi Catfish that i threw into a tank without quarantining it first...lesson learned...
 
well, i only had it once, i did a gravel vac 50% water change, rinsed filters, used cheap ick med from walmart, added aquarium salt, extra air stones, then covered, the tank with a heavy towel.

only feed fish at night when light was low. keep temps up.

treated every three days, after gravel vac and 30% water change.

Kept tank cover for 2 weeks.

Worked good. here is a good link
http://www.thekrib.com/Diseases/ich.html

search the web heat salt darkness seem to be the most recommened
 
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