Hello guys. I have a question. I have pikes red I and II. Are any of those two the same as cobra? Thanks in Advance.
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If they are Atabapo I or Atabapo II, then these are not cobra pikes. Cobra pikes come from Tapajos, and have been called Crenicichla Tapajos II. The Cobra pikes are more dull in color as adults than their Tapajos I counterparts.
If they are Atabapo I or Atabapo II, then these are not cobra pikes. Cobra pikes come from Tapajos, and have been called Crenicichla Tapajos II. The Cobra pikes are more dull in color as adults than their Tapajos I counterparts.
I get confused with all the red pikes. I can tell the difference between atabapo 1 and 2 when they are juvies (atabapo 2 = ladder pike), but then you have sp. atabapo, lugubris atabapo, Tapajos. Aren't they all the same or some red variant? Can someone list the different red variant with either pic or ranging them from redder to duller?
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Atabapo is the collection point. Tapajos is a collection point.
Atabapo I is the reddest at the youngest age 7-8" for female. Pratically all red due to the pink belly. Males will get all red at 13"+.
Atabapo II wild caught turns red in the later adult stage. I haven't seen pictures of someone able to grow Atabapo II and keep them until the really red stage. You've probably seen the wild caught really read Atabapo II with the red tear drop on the internet.
Tapajos I have red, orange, and yellow coloring. These are not dull at the adult stage. They have a yellow ring around the tail spot. They are as stunning as the Atabapo I ( who are just red and just have a black dot on the tail spot).
Tapajos II or cobra pikes due to juvenile pattern are not as vibrant as Tapajos I.
Tapajos III is much darker (grey/black) with red.
All of these fish are from the lugubris family of pikes. I have read that there is a difference between C. Atabapo 1 and C. lugubris red, but I can't tell the difference.
If you want a colorful pike out of the ones that you named then get either Atabapo 1 or a Tapajos 1.
Atabapo I is the reddest at the youngest age 7-8" for female. Pratically all red due to the pink belly. Males will get all red at 13"+.
Atabapo II wild caught turns red in the later adult stage. I haven't seen pictures of someone able to grow Atabapo II and keep them until the really red stage. You've probably seen the wild caught really read Atabapo II with the red tear drop on the internet.
Tapajos I have red, orange, and yellow coloring. These are not dull at the adult stage. They have a yellow ring around the tail spot. They are as stunning as the Atabapo I ( who are just red and just have a black dot on the tail spot).
Tapajos II or cobra pikes due to juvenile pattern are not as vibrant as Tapajos I.
Tapajos III is much darker (grey/black) with red.
All of these fish are from the lugubris family of pikes. I have read that there is a difference between C. Atabapo 1 and C. lugubris red, but I can't tell the difference.
If you want a colorful pike out of the ones that you named then get either Atabapo 1 or a Tapajos 1.
That was really intressting,here are my atabapo sp.2,and they are wild caught,age are some 2years+.
Will be nice if they will be more reddish,time will show.
This is the Atabapo II that pops up on the internet. Same tear drop and red spots near the tail as yours.
There have been pictures of Severums from Atabapo locale with quite a bit of red, which has me wondering if there is some prey in the Atabapo location that is causing the red to get more vibrant.
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/f...tabapo-Severums-Garden-Grove-CA-92841-Pick-Up
This is the Atabapo II that pops up on the internet. Same tear drop and red spots near the tail as yours.
There have been pictures of Severums from Atabapo locale with quite a bit of red, which has me wondering if there is some prey in the Atabapo location that is causing the red to get more vibrant.
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/f...tabapo-Severums-Garden-Grove-CA-92841-Pick-Up
Thanjk you,are feeding them shrimps and ocean nutrion pellets,some time earhtworm from the garden,so time will tell,
they are amazing fishes.