ID my "midas type" cichlid

[jgentry]

lol red devils dont posses a hump!! failed anyway im useless but it looks nice for sure

Red devils can posses pretty large humps. Reagan (an amphilophus guru) has an excellent RD male with a large hump that I saw in person just recently. Like mentioned above as well they often loose the large lips when tank bred. Same thing happens to gymnogeophagus labiatus.

 

[Jason_S]

How big is the fish?

If the guy is being honest (which I wouldn't trust anyway) and he did indeed buy it from Rapps and he for sure knows it's not a midas then it pretty much has to be a xilaoensis or sagitte in my mind. If it is full grown and only 7-9" it is most likely a xilaoensis. I'm not sure how long rapps has been selling xiloansis so that could also help mark them out. Also if you go to Rapps vendor page he has a RD pictured that looks similiar but also states that he just now has his first spawn from his almost solid white labiatus so that could pretty much mark off labiatus as well.

That's a lot of if's and but's though. This is simply a guess and would depend completely on the guy being true to his word.

I agree that's a lot of if's and I'd be hesitant to believe the guy as well.

My $0.02 is if it's from Rapps and not a Citrinellum, then I agree it'd have to be between xilo and sagittae. However my money would be on sagittae as it has a more elongated body. The way Rapps described them to me is that in body shape, sags are closer to labiatus in that they're longer and not quite as beefy whereas xilos are built more like midas so they're taller bodied and chunkier.

I have a thread in the picture/video lounge of my 6" xilos and the 2 bigger males are taller bodied (by comparison) and much chunkier than the fish in question.