it defiently has veija in it, but doesn't distinguish itself as any perticular species from what i've seen of vieja, so i'm accually going to agree with unsure Liam for one of the first time if not the first time, and say a possible hybrid vieja.
somebody may easily know better though, i have limited experience with this genus
Bare with me, I am getting in a right mucking fuddle with these pics. I am trying to show the latest ones but the pics are so small on my pc that I can't see which is which. I dont think these are the ones I wanted, but can't seem to delete them. I'll try again later.