ID please

[mdb_talon]

I'll flush the fish no problem

No reason to flush the poor guy might as well try to treat it. You need to treat the whole tank at this point even if you get rid of that fish because transmission is pretty much immediate (does not mean other fish will show symptoms though if they are in good condition and not "stressed" they very well may fight it off. It floats throughout the water though so any transmission has likely already happened.

 

[BlackShark11k]

HITH is a very complex disease with many possible causes and possibly active pathogens. It can be contagious.

HITH only has one real cause that has any evidence at all to back it up and that is poor water quality, everything else is just speculation. Diet may also play a role, but again, that is speculation.

It is not a contagious disease, the parasite is internal and I have rescued plenty of fish with HITH that I have placed in a tank with other cichlids that did not contract it.

As a common rule, if one fish has HITH in a tank, the other are bound to get it- since the water is probably bad and they'll all suffer. But if you tank one fish from a bad tank, and put it with unaffected fish in another tank, the fish probably won't get it. Simply, HITH won't be contracted in fish with strong immune systems.

 

[BlackShark11k]

It is highly contagious. It is a parasite that will spread to fish in a tank in very short order. The only good thing is that most "healthy" fish in good water conditions can fight it off. Google hexamita intestinalis for more info.

Hexamita is a coldwater parasite found in mostly cyprinids, it is impossible for cichlid fish to contract it and it has no relation to HITH. Any relation to HITH is false and incorrect speculation.

 

[mdb_talon]

Hexamita is a coldwater parasite found in mostly cyprinids, it is impossible for cichlid fish to contract it and it has no relation to HITH. Any relation to HITH is false and incorrect speculation.

Well some disagree yes, but I am not sure what makes you the final answer on the question?

http://fishprofiles.com/profiles/diseases/Hexamita/100016/
http://www.fishyfarmacy.com/articles/hexamita.html
http://www.fishchannel.com/fish-health/freshwater-conditions/hexamita.aspx

 

[BlackShark11k]

how do we know any pathogens are involved?

honestly, theres a ton of speculation as to exactly what it is, but until some major studies are done we won't know. for know, at least we know what causes it and and how to help cure it (although there is still debate on that)!

i just hate people flaunting around that its hexamita with no real evidence except that that theory makes no sense at all

 

[bud]

Thanks for everyone quick reply.I am sad to say but this guy is no longer with us

 

[mdb_talon]

how do we know any pathogens are involved?

ROFL you edited this post to take away your links. Was this because you actually read them and realized they contradicted half of what you were claiming? ie not contagious, etc.

The fact is there is still a lot of debate on whether hexamita specifically causes HITH or not it is far from settled. What is certain is that most (not all) studied cases of HITH disease are in fish that have hexamita infestations. Whether the hexamita can actually cause HITH or whether it just weakens the fish to make it more suceptible is the debate. There are other suspected causes as well; but most of them are contagious also.

As I said before though in a tank with good parameters and healthy unstressed fish they will rarely get HITH because they fight off whatever the cause.

 

[Cecropia]

Thanks for everyone quick reply.I am sad to say but this guy is no longer with us

That was quick.

 

[Sab_Fan]

Thanks for everyone quick reply.I am sad to say but this guy is no longer with us

did he die, or did you put him down? sounded pretty cold when you said you'd "flush him" . . .

 

[mshill90]

Bud, You've been keeping tanks for 37 years remember???

You should know that HITH is treatable, and you should have known he had it if you have had fish for almost 40 years.

Kinda makes me speculate if you have really had fish this long....

I really doubt the fish passed. No.. I HIGHLY doubt the fish passed.

IF you didn't want the issue of the fish, you could have found someone to care for it. It could have lived a full normal life.

Not being rude, only trying to add things together.

*Refer back to your ICH post for the 37 year remark*