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klmt said:
lol, saw that coming from that picture with the dovii in the background. and maybe you never stocked bluegills in the first place. maybe they were green sunfish from the start because what you have in your pictures is a green sunfish. the OP has a bluegill.
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Which has to be exactly the case! What is worse, I have posted these "types" of picture in dozens of threads "incorrectly" identifying the fish in my pond as "bluegills" like 100 times here on MFK and this is the first time in like 100 that ANY user on MFK has said anything other than "nice bluegills" etc. . .

To be honest, All HOWEVERMANYTIMES I have used the term "BLUEGILL" (and NEVER been corrected by a single member of MFK until today) here on this site was obviously erroneously in reference to "GREEN SUNFISH". I do fully accept "my bad" identification. I originally came to this site to learn.

Thank you to Dreamsofpeace54 & mbeatrice setting me straight on this. My pond is stocked with bazillions of Green Sunfish (From Liberty Res.) and not Bluegills (from Liberty res.). Like klmt stated though and knew exactly what was coming, because I was allowed to continue and propagate this misidentification for well over a year straight on MFK before being properly "educated".

It is not like this is an "easy" thing either. MFK is a fish site. There have been literally HUNDREDS UPON HUNDREDS of guests (I had a field party with like 500 people in H.S.) over my property and visiting and fishing in my pond. I have NEVER heard ANY person say that these were ANYTHING other than general "BLUEGILL". While MFK is a site that specializes in fish, you guys and girls have less than no concept of what an average person sees as a "bluegill". I am an avid fisherman, and can assure you that the vast majority of us although light years ahead of the "average person" will still not be able to properly identify the difference between whatever this "bluegill" thing is and the "green sunfish".

They are one in the same to like 99.999% of the population. The 0.001% of the population that is members of MFK are those that can distinguish the difference.

Major embarisment that I have posted misinformation related to this hundreds of times!

Again I appologize to MFK, as I thought for like the last year and a half that I was being honest with all references that I made to "bluegill". Please accept my appologies and replace each mention of the word "bluegill" that I have ever used with "green sunfish"
 
IME, most people only know of Bluegill. And maybe Pumpkinseeds. Mention Greens, and their eyes go blank even if they've been fishing for years. Or, they just call every sunfish a Bluegill.

Regardless, the pictures that ScreaminLeeman has posted are not of a Bluegill. The mouth size and shape screams Green as does the body shape and fin tips.
 
OP- yours is a bluegill

Leeman- Green Sunfish def, your stock company easily sold you lots of green sunfish. They can be very aggressive and can dominate a small pond.
 
thanks for the replys guys. i thought so but was unsure its actually has a much brighter yellow belly than the others and since the mouth was diff i thought what the hay.
 
Leeman, did you ordered hybrid bluegills? I have heard few cases where hybrid sunnies (usually Bluegill x Green) has reverted to the "pure" green after left your pond uncheck for few years with no spawning control.

Of course, sometimes you could have gotten bluegills with few hidden greenies from hatchery. Ive found muskellunge fingerlings mixed with the walleye fingerlings and also brook/brown trout fingerlings mixed with rainbow trouts before stocking the lake.
 
dcorreia said:
Leeman's Greenies look like a hybrid to me. There may have been some bluegill in there at some point...
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I am going to start a new thread this evening in the coldwater section as I do not want to Hijack a thread. I dredged the pond around a decade ago, but have some old pictures neighborhood kids and the stock that existed in it whan I moved to Westminster in 1979.

There was an extremely well established population of LMB and some sort of sunfish when we moved in. I redirected the pond above ground spring feed, drained the pond and dammed the creek to "store the fish stock". I had a construction company come in and dredge the bottom to 15' deep, and than allowed the above ground spring feed to refill it. Before the fish could be restocked, a major gully washer rainstorm blew out the dam, and I lost the entire original stock of Bass & ? sunfish down stream.

Around a decade ago is the ONLY time I have ever NOT practiced catch and release on FW fish species! Actually in a sense, I still "practiced" catch and release in that I caught 7 LMB and 1 SMB from Liberty Resevoir and placed them in an aerated bubbler beer cooler and transported them back home to release in my farm pond. The pond was totally overrun by Bullfrog tadpoles in the first month after refill (food source). It was not until the following year that I stocked in the same manner as the bass around a dozen sunfish that I believed to be "bluegills". Again, I fall short of being able to tell the difference, and have no way of knowing WTF these dozen or so Sunfish type fish were. I certainly can not swear at this point that I did not have 12 all different species of sunfish that I caught at Liberty that day and threw into my pond.

I cannot begin to state that although the dozen or so fish I stocked that day all appeared to be the same fish "species", I thought of a sunfish as a sunny and were all the "same" and all DEFINATELY not Crappie (Striped Bass Candy!).

I have no concept of what "species" of sunfish live in Liberty Resevoir but the fish in my pond can easily be any combination of sunfish species that live in the res!

The sunfish from the lost population got emense in my pond and > 12" was extremely common! Will see in pictures that I am able to dig up tonight. The sunfish from the re-stock around a decade ago stay tiny in the pond and have now been in a decade! I do not believe that there is a single "sunfish" in my pond out of the bazillion that spawned over the decade that exceedes 8".
 
you live and you learn, either way, there really is no fish that can be housed with an adult male dovii. in fact, greens tend to be more aggressive than bluegills. with that being said, yes most of the population incorrectly refers to bluegills, pumpkinseeds, red breasted, longear, green...ect as "sunnies" or "bluegills" when in fact there are many species that most people dont know about. They see the blue spot on the operculum and think that obviously it it is a bluegill. but with closer inspection of the "sunnies" being caught there is pretty clear distinctions between the different species. especially in the adults of each species. in juveniles it can be more difficult.
 
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