ID please

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I don't believe its a venezuela. Looks like it could be C. Lucius of the Saxatilis species. There are others here who would know for better than I.
Female if abdomen is red often. Usually sign of female.
Here is couple of pics of Lucius.
 

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Im gonna go with lucius , a very fat healthy lucius. But then again , I also am no expert.
 
Looks like sumkind'a lugubris - def not a venezuela [wrong head type].
might be a saxatilus variant... not, ~ if it gets over 10" ! ! !
red under eye seems like a lugubris trait, wait 1/2 yr. & see wha happens!
 
MTN PIKE;843135; said:
Looks like sumkind'a lugubris - def not a venezuela [wrong head type].
might be a saxatilus variant... not, ~ if it gets over 10" ! ! !
red under eye seems like a lugubris trait, wait 1/2 yr. & see wha happens!

Its definately Saxatilis, what species though...haha....I hate IDing Sax. pikes....bloody difficult sometimes!
 
yeah, looks like the what me and Taz got. He said it's Lucius, from aqualog and online pics and descriptions. Surprised he didnt put anything yet. prob figured Shadow had it...
 
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